Keep calm and support Spurs

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  1. Big fran Guest

    Personally I think Palace away is a far tougher game than a fixture at home to Watford who also have injury issues. By Wednesday wanyama and dier would be closer to match fitness. Son and sissoko also returning. Quite simple logic really. Eriksen probably takes the pen.


     
  2. dnoll5

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    Where to start? I guess by addressing that I have been to White Hart Lane, along with games at Sevilla, Barcelona, Nice, Toulouse, Inter, Bologna, and Monaco, so I feel like I have an idea of what this game called football is all about despite my current country of residence.

    Secondly, that line about any manager worth his salt would've resigned by now? HA! I'd like to hear your list of managers that you'd think would be better than the current one.

    And for the record, I never said that the FA Cup was worthless, far from it. I just understand the prioritizing. I didn't even mention the financial windfall that this club gets from being in the UCL v FA Cup round of 16. It's something like 70M v 7M. That helps us be competitive next season without so many injuries (I hope). And again, Poch hasn't exactly put out weakened squads with any kind of regularity. On the contrary. Many feel (this USA resident included) that he overworks his key players more often than he gives them a well deserved break.
     
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    . After Chelsea they were spent. It was over.
    What makes you think that you, as supporter, DESERVE the players not only leave all they got out on the pitch, but to do it on every 3rd day? I don't know about you, but I played in my youth and I feel for lads. You seem to want everybody give out their money , heart (literally) and heart (emotionally) out there to satisfy your bragging rights? I've got news for you. It have never been that way and will not happen. Remember, YOU need Spurs, not the other way around. So keep calm and support, like article says..
     
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    It was windy, the ball was rolling off the spot. Could have happen to anyone, even Kane had missed the target. Poch does have propensity to put money on the wrong horse, so you have a point, but I think it's a long shot. Neither Wanyama or Son are playing box-to-box, so there is no replacement for Eriksen tomorrow. What could help was keeping Dembele, who was injury free finally. Missing on Grelish last summer could be the reason for the cup exits.

    Scoreless draw tomorrow may prove you right.
     
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  6. P reed Guest

    It seems my comments were not appreciated by the people who run the website and if I went over the top and insulted anyone I apologise but I'm am afraid that being a supporter for over 60 years I do have an opinion and the comments that followed about the profit made from Europe as opposed to the fa cup sums up the frustration many Spurs fans feel.Managers who would be better one is at man city one is at Liverpool one is at athletics Madrid and one ex Real Madrid Frenchman who is out of work.
     
  7. Big fran Guest

    Time will tell can argue till we're blue in the face. My midfield would have been winks dier eriksen. Tomorrow sissoko dier Skipp. Lamela moura son up top.
     
  8. Mick

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    Definitely with you dnoll5. In an ideal world I want everything but not a ideal world. Comments about lack of investment by the club conveniently overlook new ground training facilities etc. 1 billion or whatever cost is not a insignificant sum. Where they think more money coming from i do not know. If we had not gone down this route of new ground i feel we would have suffered a inexorable decline of low income and become a club remembering past glories but no future as big 6 club This way we have a chance of being a elite club so i am willing to take pain of no trophies in hope of a better tomorrow. Have just seen Poch give a passionate defence of his and clubs stance and i applaud him. For the record have been going to Spurs since early 70's and loved all the cup wins and hope one day they will return and think we are going the best way to have a chance. It will be a dark day when Poch goes a fantastic manager and not afraid to say what people do not want to hear especially the media
     
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    Not me. I suggest to upgrade from Guest to Member, it's free. Admin must warn guests, I guess. That's his job.
    Your comment is well known, but it is not applicable to Manager. He is hired with certain expectations that are set by club owners. Both Levy and Lewis are THFC supporters for life. Yet first and foremost they are businessmen. They seem to have made a business decision to follow money, not trophies. Use the money to build the club, i.e. new stadium, football school, etc. Neither one has pocketed any part of revenue. It is being 100% re-invested. Yet they have plan and follow it. Spurs are not like any other club in EPL. . Top 4 is a trophy to them and it is most valuable, since it delivers most money. ENIC doesn't have oil money behind. They forced to build the club brick-by-brick. However, they do not ask supporters where to re-invest and that pisses supporters off. The pundits only know the football of the 80ies and 90ies and don't understand different approach THFC is taking and call it stinginess. So do supporters. I'd say if you spend, you better do it right, or don't spend at all. Spurs cannot afford to buy players, try them, figure out which ones will make it and sell the rest. It is inefficient and wasteful way of doing business. What needs to be done, they must keep players they got. They need to increase wages, so they will not escape to better paying clubs. Yet whilst money spent in transfer market can be recovered at least partially, the money spent on wages is lost entirely. LFC, MCFC, and MUFC do not have that problem being unlimited in their recourses. Chelsea and Arsenal are feeling limitations due to absence of revenues from UCL. Spurs are in much more precarious position. They can no longer afford not to have UCL revenues. Or they will be set back big time. That is why it is a priority. Sure some may do both Top 4 and FA Cup. Pochetino said he cannot. I am disappointed, but still okay with it. You have the right to demand different manager. Just keep in mind that none from your list will come to WHL.
     
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    Felon you had me in stitches, and as you know i agree with your stance 100%.

    Chestnut, made a point that there is not much in it between arry and MP, both had opportunities to win a cup or two, Mp even had the best chance ever to win the league. In the end both managers weren't good enough to steer their players to victory.

    I doubt the new stadium will be a game changer, in fact it is already being used as a reason for no investment in the team.

    Kane is the best goalscorer i have ever seen play for spurs by the time Spurs fans pay off the debt for the new stadium for levy, Kane will be retired.

    Levy comes across as someone who doesn't understand football, if he could find someone who knows the game as dof spurs could improve their transfers, however, Mp biggest weakness is his player assessment, until he improves in this area winning trophies will continue to be more difficult than it should be.
     
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    And this is exactly the point that these Levbotomised cultists miss or choose to stay in a permanent state of denial about!

    We've spent nothing for a decade just to be in £600million pounds worth of Debt, if anyone seriously thinks we're gonna be splashing the cash I'd suggest they seek help.

    But hey they probably won't be disappointed because apparently Football is no longer about winning and Stadium is more important than the Team o_O
     
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    “I don’t agree with that. That only builds your ego.” Sterling Silver is less important than Pound Sterling.

    Just wait Felon82 and will join your rant once Spurs are out of UCL. Sorry, but until then I am with Poch.
     
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    Mp is a solid coach (i see a lot of similarities with Sari) and will bring relative success to teams who are under performing, however, he still has to prove he can inspire teams to become winners.

    What frustrates me with MP is the way he has dealt with players he falls out with and expecting players to do what they are not capable of.

    I look at the present squad and know if MP/levy had made the right decision it would be stronger than it is now.

    The spurs transfer policy needs to be more proactive:
    You keep good players for 1st 11.
    you keep average players to fill squad.
    You sell below average players, fast.
    The key is to always bring in better players than the ones you already have, and if your lucky enough to get a big offer for an average player, you sell. Mourinho wanted Dier for 40-50m and Everton wanted Trippier 20-25m if true how could MP not sanction these deals?.

    Janssen, Gkn and Llorente, Mp has fallen out with one, one is not good enough and the other Mp doesn't play to his strengths. No problem only cost spurs 40m.
     
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    Hindsight is fantastic, isn't it?
    There would have been riots if we'd sold Dier to Man U at the time as he wasn't considered an average player back then, and Trippier was getting on top of his game when transfer rumours were touted for him whilst we had no proven right-back to replace him and having sold Walker no-one wanted to see Trips go.

    What MP has done is galvanise the core of the team, the best players. There's not been any transfer requests submitted (theat we know of) or tantrums on the training ground refusing to play, which used to be a regular feature when our stars had their heads turned by the like of Man U.
     
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    I think we have to agree to disagree.
    It is clear to me that Poch has written this season out due to stadium delays. He will try anew next season. To be in same position he has to ensure top 4 spot. I don't think he will ever sign anyone with name recognition. Established players never work well with Poch. That is the reason for Spurs not spending a lot on new players.

    I suggest everyone to relax, wait and see. If THFC can win trophies without spending big in the transfer market, then MP will be hailed as an innovative genius. If Spurs never progress any further than they have to date, he’ll be labelled a stubborn fool who never mustered up the courage to really go for glory. The latter is premature as of today.
     

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