Little surprises as Tim proves he ain't so Dim

Discussion in 'Tottenham forum' started by Mattj78, April 11, 2015.

  1. Mattj78

    Mattj78 Well-Known Member

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    There was only ever one winner going to come from today's game. Before the game kicked off, Tim Sherwood was ready to take 3 vital points for Villa and leave Spurs contemplating a lower finish than last season under his half season stewardship.

    Throughout this season, Spurs have flattered to deceive with victories against Villa at Villa Park, Swansea and Hull, all examples of how Spurs have taken 3 points after very poor performances. Of course winning when playing badly is a sign of a great team we are often told, but this Spurs team are very far from being great.

    Tim Sherwood took a lot of abuse from Spurs fans last year but actually he didn't do a bad job. His media skills were immature but then what would you really expect from a rookie manager. At times he liked, and still does like, the sound of his own voice a little too much, but he gives youth a chance.
    He presided over Spurs youth development project under Harry and continued through to his short reign as Spurs boss, but he provided a real back bone to the clubs academy system, something that some Spurs fans instantly ignored due to his Arsenal connections.

    So, would giving Tim a full season in charge have been a disaster? Possibly it would, but we will never know.

    If you look at Kane, Bentaleb, Mason, these are all players nurtured by Sherwood, Chris Ramsey and Les Ferdinand, all dispatched with at the end of last season by Mr Trigger happy himself, Daniel Levy. People, who whatever you may think, had shown loyalty and commitment to the Spurs cause for a number of years.

    Tim brought with him today a Villa side fighting for their lives and came up against a Spurs team who are simply playing out the season with little effort. Something 'dim Tim' would not have stood for.
    I suspect he saw some of the players who he publicly chided last season on the field today and had a wry smile to himself.

    Tim was never going to be afforded time and was a cheap option for Levy. It suited Tim and it suited Levy even more.

    The performance today was unacceptable and how many times have we used those words this season? Too many to mention. Danny Rose takes a lot of stick but in my view he has been one of our better players this season and was about the best today. At least when he got on the ball, we looked threatening. Well, sort of.
    Harry Kane tried too hard today. He has so many poor players around him that he tried to take on the Villa himself and ultimately ran himself into the ground.

    At the start of the season, Chadli looked good and was getting on the scoresheet, but now he is lazy, uninterested and simply not good enough. Eriksen has shown moments of genius this season but has also been poor in far too many games. Without Kane's goals, we could truly be looking at at a bottom 6 finish rather than the heady top 7 we are aiming for now.

    The excuses are that Pochettino 'inherited' a team that was not his. Well, in part that may be true but he had 2 transfer windows to change that. He brought in Fazio and Stambouli who have been bit part players, and poor ones at that, and made Kaboul captain. It took him too long to realise that Kaboul was not up to playing Premiership football, let alone be a captain.

    Pochettino must be given time because sacking yet another manager cannot be the answer and who else is there? Koeman was the ideal fit for Spurs but Baldini and Levy continued to fiddle while the empire slowly burns.

    Pochettino was brought in to develop the youth set up at Spurs, something that a certain Tim Sherwood had already done and done very well.

    Tottenham will have to sell in the summer before they can buy and I think we will not see mass investment because funds are being held back for the new stadium.

    Adebayor is digging his heals in and looks set to stay next season. We will lose money on Lamela and Soldado should they be sold and then we have to try and find quality replacements.

    As much as we need a new stadium, anyone who thinks that will bring success is living in a dream world. It is no guarantee of success and players dont just sign for clubs who can offer the lure of a big stadium. The best players sign for clubs with realistic prospects of playing regular Champions league football. With realistic prospects of winning silverware.

    Are Tottenham Hotspur any closer to Arsenal despite beating them this season? Of course not. In fact we are nowhere near and if anyone truly thinks a new stadium will change all that they had best get a reality check.

    Tim may not have been popular but he had passion. Something the current set up is sadly lacking.

    Season over again and mid table mediocrity feels more likely than top four.
     
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  2. nick Guest

    I totally agree with your article. Firstly, when Pochettino was being rumoured to being considered as our next manager, I looked up his pedigree/CV, and it read very badly. Inherited a decent side at Southampton, but incredibly was sacked by Espanol when they were near bottom of the league in Spain. Anyone that doesn't know Spanish football, Espanol would be the equivalent of maybe Southampton or Birmingham City (no insult intended). And I quote...

    On 28 September 2010 Pochettino extended his contract with the club for one more year, until 30 June 2012.[10] On 26 November 2012, however, following a 0–2 home loss against Getafe CF that left the Pericos in the last place with just nine points from 13 matches, his contract was terminated by mutual consent.[11]

    Why did Spurs appoint him, the cheapest option, as always.

    This all smacks of Juande Ramos to me, the board (Levy) have once again completely mucked it up and I see Pochettino being the first managerial casualty of 2015-2016, sadly. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him succeed, but with Spurs transfer policy (cheap), and so many average to bad players already at Spurs, he is holding a poisoned chalice.

    Mauricio is 80-1 next managerial casualty, very good odds. Shame it can't be Daniel Levy!
     
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  3. georgef Guest

    It seems to only just be dawning on most supporters that Pochetino is not the manager Levy and co would have us believe, I have been saying all season that he is tactically poor and his judgement of players ability is badly lacking, how anyone can make Kaboul club captain with Adebayor vice captain amazes me, did he think that giving them the armband would make them better players, it doesn't work like that, look how it has effected Kane! he continues to play Chadli and Townsend when they should at most be on the bench and leaves talented players like Lamela out, Walker continues to let the team down defensively as does Paulinio, and Mason and Benelab have been burnt out playing cup and league matches all season, his substitutions still have everyone scratching theirs heads and his plan B doesn't exist and I'm not even sure if he has a plan A? the one person that seems to avoid responsibility is the one person that has caused our demise over the past 4 or 5 years, step forward Mr Levy!!
     
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  4. Mattj78

    Mattj78 Well-Known Member

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    Levy has presided over us for 14 years never mind 4 or 5.
     
  5. Mattj78

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    I think Poch can be a good coach but he is very naive. We are very easy to play against at times and there is never a plan B.
    As I gave said countless times, our second string are appalling. Most teams have a couple or three average players but we have them in abundance.

    Just recently Levy gave the green light for Poch to start a summer clearout. That is going to be harder than many people may think and we will see more youth products getting their chance. I think that is a good thing but it must be mixed with absolute quality and experience and I am not sure we will see that come on.

    Spurs are tightening their belts, not loosening them and I see another five years at least of Enics favourite term, "transition"
     
  6. Cheshuntboy Guest

    I used to think that Pochettino would be safe pretty much regardless, because any credibility Levy retains (there are some STILL some people, believe it or not, who think he's doing a good job!) would go if he sacked yet another manager/coach, but now I'm not so sure. Seeing Pochettino on MOTD last night, I was reminded of Gerry Francis in the final days of his 1990s managerial unravelling - they both looked absolutely shell-shocked, literally at the end of their respective tethers, and I wouldn't be surprised if our current incumbent doesn't jack it in (by 'mutual consent' obviously), sooner rather than later. He should never have been appointed in the first place, and the 'give Poch time' merchants are whistling in the dark - if you haven't got the basics of tactics and man management, there's nothing to build on, and while I feel sorry for anyone trying to turn Tottenham into a real football club with ENIC at the helm, Pochettino will have a few bob to soften the blow when (not if) the inevitable happens.
     
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  7. victor New Member

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    d same weaknesses r there to be improved.
    Get a big strong or skillful striker like a Benteke -type to terrorise defenders, n take load off young Kane.s shoulders. ( Spurs had a chance earlier even to take Benteke, they delayed n fluffed ).
    Need a an attacking commander midfielder to call d shots maybe a Schneiderlin.
    In defence if d tall strong Wimmer will join, as Spurs hv only VERTS worth mentioning.
     
  8. big fran Guest

    Think Schneiderlin will be onto bigger and better things. Our primary target should be Ings on pretty much free contract. He's young hungry strong powerful aggressive hard working adaptable and brings goals assists and quality. Berahinho would be my next signing meaning we have England's three best up and coming strikers. I'd recall Pritchard lennon and Carroll. Promote Carter - Vickers to the first team and if we manage to sell some deadwood which I doubt strengthen at centre half and mid (cabaye) a great option!!
     
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  9. Hotchpotch Guest

    Poch is another dead man walking and those 80/1 odds look good. No Spurs manager who ever they are has turned round an end of season slump and made it past 10 games into a new season. Well apart from Harry who had the best Spurs team in the premiership era. Currently we have worst when you consider that the premier league is toilet
     
  10. toker Guest

    Watch Kane to become Levy's pawn to placate the fans...
     
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  11. Lee butler New Member

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    This is typical Spurs nothing will change why levy runs the club personally I would like to see old school Spurs bought in hoddle,sheringham, and ledly given a first team role levy is a control freak when Harry was in charge we got rid of a director of football and we was rolling good football good players . Then knob head decides it's time for Harry to go brings back the director of football and we slowly start to go backwards if not for Kane and a bit of good form from Ericsson that seems to have left him recently we could of been in a relegation battle . Unless we get bought out I can't see levy going anywhere the current manager will be gone after a couple of months of the new season if it starts the way it's going now then we will be further back . Dreams of catching arsenal really are dreams .
     
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  12. Mattj78

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    If you look at the seasons with a director of football, and then at the ones without a director of football, it is plain to see the role has hindered rather than enabled at Spurs.
    Only one person fails to see this.
     
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  13. Deggsy56

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    I think C Austin would be a better option. 17 goals this season, would be a big help and decent partner for 'H'. Would at least show some ambition if nothing else!
     
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    We should have got in FDB who has come out recently and stated that he would have come to Spurs had he been offered the job, im still gobsmacked at times that we preferred a manager with an awful record of half a decent season and zero experience at a club of our size to a proven winner with an exceptional record at a big club. Should have been a no-brainer but here we are yet again with a clueless manager who doesn't know his team or how to play them.
    The best reason anyone can come up with as to why we shouldn't sack this plonker is because we've already sacked too many previous managers.
    Well done to Tim but it was no stroke of genius or a master game plan needed to pick up the three points. We are easy to play against and have struggled against every team lately, " ok lads long ball over the top to the big guy and that should do it, oh and defend deep and try to stay awake". Sherwood had to go and keeping him would have definitely been a disaster, he was quickly becoming an ego-maniac with his embarrassing and completely unnecessary media outbursts, maybe he did say things that some players needed to hear but he should have kept it in the dressing sheds, idiotic and bizarre behaviour that made his position completely untenable at this club. Maybe getting the punt from Spurs has brought him back down to earth and he might yet be a decent manager for Villa, good luck to him.
    As far as Poch goes, he is no better fit at Spurs as AVB was and will be lucky to see out the next year at this rate.
    Is it too late to call FDB ?
     

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