Matchday discussion

We can go round and round in circles on this.Just accept as with pochetino some will love Mourino and some will hate him.I don’t think he has improved us and yes he has a ageing and in some cases lazy squad.I am prepared to see if he can turn it round with a good transfer window but he was involved with this window and didn’t buy what was needed but did agree I assume to Fernandez and felon you query what he is as a player .he also must have agreed to lecelso being signed permantly and once again felon you don’t over rate him so do you trust him with more money or not???

 

JMs brand of negative 10 men behind the ball has created 40 goals from 23 games and has 3rd highest points tally in that time.
Yet it's not attacking enough or good enough for some regardless of who's missing n how limited the personnel are.

It's crazy talk

 

So Fernandez I'm sure JM saw we needed legs in the middle of the park and a bit of box to box ability that Dier Winks N'Dombele can't/don't offer especially in the absence of Sissoko. He's on loan so is a stop gap n possibly being given a chance to get a permanent move?
LoCelso can't be faulted for effort and in a side that is carrying so many passengers I can see why Mourinho made his signing permanent but let's not kid ourselves is running around gonna compensate the goals n assists of CE? It's not, but it was not his initial sanction to sign him.
So really it's only Fernandez & Bergwijn you can judge him on ( in a January transfer window) and I'd say Bergwijn has made an impact and has been good value for money.

 

Felon you have not mentioned why he didn’t buy at least one defender this window as he seemed only interested in trying to sign another back up striker.Nothing I or anybody else who have reservations about Mourino will convince you to criticise the man so we wait with bated breath for the end of the season and then we will see what transpires

 

What transfer budget was he afforded ?
If it was only 25 mil then he did what he could with it and bought Bergwijn who's been decent.
I believe he was interested in the Benfica CB and will probably go back in the summer for him.
The summer prior to this season is where the defence shouldve been sorted out anyone with an ounce of football knowledge called that at the time and if these things aren't addressed this summer then by all means criticise that. (Because I certainly will) I just personally think it's unreasonable right now.

No one can seriously say that January is the time for a rebuild and a great time to buy a new side it just doesn't happen unless big big cash is thrown at it.

 

For the record-

I'm no advocate of JMs brand of football, I'm not saying he's gonna be a success, he's not beyond criticism either no one is.
But moaning because the football hasn't been vintage enough for some when he's clearly got someone else's average squad missing it's best players yet has still got results is farcical.

Anyone would think we were playing champagne football before his arrival we weren't and are weaker from player departures.
I'd suggest it's a deck clearing exersise like Poch was afforded in his 1st full season with us.

 

I'd decided to keep my views to myself, at least for a while, but the ridiculous rush to criticise Mourinho is too much to put up with. Back in 2008, Levy sacked Ramos when we were bottom of the table, appointed Redknapp, and the next season we'd qualified for the CL for the first ever time. I always was a fan of Harry, but I don't think he's a miracle worker, and the turnaround in our fortunes was very largely based on his ability to motivate a good squad (including Bale and Modric remember) who'd lost direction under the previous bloke.
Fast forward to 2019, and the 'lost direction' bit was clearly still true, but Mourinho wasn't taking over a good squad; he'd got a disparate mob of malcontents (Rose and Eriksen), permanent crocks (Lamela, Wanyama, plus Kane and Lloris, it now seems), players who've gone backwards despite Pochettino's legendary coaching skills (Alli and Dier), bought players who've never justified their fees (Sanchez, Aurier, Foyth and now N'dombele), and once good players now obviously past it (Alderweireld and Vertonghen). How do you mount a top four challenge from that?
I don't think for one moment that Mourinho fully grasped what a mess Pochettino and Levy's combined efforts had left us in, and whether he's up for the total rebuild we need is anybody's guess, but to launch into him after barely three months (in which the loss of Kane and Son is just the garnish on the **** sandwich) is taking impatience to new levels, even for Spurs fans - give the man a chance!

 

I’ll settle for that, or we’ll never move on.....win tomorrow Jose...

 

Just when I decided to give the Mourino debate a rest he appears on sky and when asked if there would be big changes in the summer he replied no.When asked why he said because it was not needed and because of the provider?I assume he means Levy.He said the squad needs strenghthening but nor massively.Does that sound familiar .Anybody else think we don’t need massive changes even if only to get the defeatist attitude out of the club.If he does not think we need big changes why are we so poor at the moment???

 

Well there’s a surprise. He who pays the piper call the tune, it’s simple. With no CL that will remove close to £100m from the revenues and it limits the attraction to top talent. Add to that we are a seller of players nobody wants, so there is no seed corn cash, result....decline..........

 

I’m not sure why, despite repeated attempts to clearly ecplain it, people still talk about a dislike or lack of patience with JM which is not true, I actually find him as a manager quite entertaining.

To me, the point is simple....we haven’t improved our performances enough with the players that we do have to make the change justifiable when there are other managers who I believe would have done a better job.

I will continue to support JM and am not criticising his transfers because he only has made a couple. I cannot accept that because we have scraped points to put us in an artificial position, things are better.

As is being proved, we can just as easily scrape a defeat as we can a loss and if we continue to sit deep then that’s what I fear will happen.

I still hope that with some signings in the summer, he will change his style of play and try to get us forward quicker but his style at every previous club hasn’t been that. If he carries on as he has in the past, he will leave with us in a much worse position than he picked us up in and any rebuilding will take that much longer.

I genuinely hope that he doesn’t though because when he was successful in years gone by, he won everything and I would take anything as an improvement.

 

Wanyama has finally been sold , decks are being cleared.....

 

Well on the plus side it appears we got rid of Wanyama its pity he like Dier peaked for one season and then due to injury/illness neither of them are half the player they were Jose is like Poch before him toeing the party line personally I believe Jose will do what he did at Inter he will scour around for players who are either out of contract or nearing the end of their contract and use this players as short term gap fillers maybe win something and might say I've done my job see ya look at our midfield it's woeful Willian is head and shoulders above anything we got however I would like Dacoure from Watford a proper stopper and why not go for Frazier from Bournemouth again better than what we got although to be honest there are quite a few players out there who would walk into our team but as always with our top men we will take the happy shopper route cheap enough good enough I hope I'm wrong but the last 20 years probably shows I'm not

 

I wouldn't believe anything Mou says about recruitment. He have said no acquisitions will be in the winter and sure enough we got a few new lads. If you are hired at the middle of the season, you do not talk about rebuild, since your purpose is to turn the things around and to right the ship as is. But it doesn't mean JM will quit buying players.

 

If/When Norwich go down we should 100 % go for their 2 full backs Aaron's & Lewis , we should also go in for Dacoure from Watford.

 

I'd take chillwell and Aaron's. Not seen much of Lewis. Also ake from Bournemouth. Throw in a no4 and a new attacker were a good side again. Talking 200 to 250m tho. Need this naming rights deal done to offset these debts. Sell foyth rose moura lamela dier sanchez possibly.

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51707670
Some quotes:
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TEAM NEWS
Tottenham are still without Harry Kane (hamstring), Son Heung-min (shoulder) and Moussa Sissoko (knee). Hugo Lloris (groin) misses out again, so Paulo Gazzaniga will deputise in goal.

Erik Lamela and Ryan Sessegnon are back in contention to play.

Norwich have doubts over striker Teemu Pukki and midfielder Alex Tettey with both suffering from illness.

But manager Farke is expected to freshen up his team as he did in the previous rounds at Preston and Burnley.
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I've read some claims that winning the play-off to go up to the EPL is the highest revenue possible match. The payoff of being in/reaching the EPL is supposedly greater than reaching the CL....

Will Norwich play their best players in this match or will they rest many first-teamers to focus on staying in the EPL ?
Will Spurs play their best players in this match or will they rest many first-teamers to focus on reaching the CL?

Which players and line-up will Mourinho select? Which players and line-up would manager X have selected? (X being the previous manager or whichever manager being preferred instead of Mourinho)

Which, if any, Norwich players would strengthen a Spurs-team and should be watched more carefully?

So many questions

 

I personally believe JM being the pragmatic manager he is has weighed up what is most realistic and tangible n has decided it's the FACup this season.
It's another trophy for his collection and something I believe the club/players/fans desperately need.
With Son & Kane we have a punchers chance of making top 4 but without there are stronger sides in contention imo.
That's why I think Jan & Toby were tested sunday.
Could be wrong but that's what I think

 

his team selection tonight does not suggest he is pregmatic..Dier and verts indefence Moura still in team and Skip given first game.Hope we still have enough to beat weakened Norwichor we really have hit rock bottom

 

40 minutes gone dele ali winks moura bergwyn useless last minute moura misses open goal i would have scored and im 76.