Matchday discussion

Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation, would have preferred 4-3-3 to allow Moura to be higher up and Lo Celso to be defending more instead. Looks so easy to bypass the midfield, every team looks to be better than Spurs in pressing high.

Jan might be getting older but he is class.

 

Supported spurs for over 60 years and this is without doubt the biggest load of rubbish i have ever seen.

I hope i never have to see moura ali winks dier ever again.

MOURINHO MUST BE SACKED.

 

The ref lets Krul get away with playacting on every pen. Fernandes never looked like scoring in a month of sundays. Spurs are a disgrace and the manager has not got a clue has to how modern day football should be played, he must be sacked before he does any more damage. Vorm aurier dier winks skipp ali moura i would never play again.I AM DISGUSTED.

 

Teams bang average

On a plus note LoCelso was the only player that looked like he wanted it and was head n shoulders above the rest.

Lamela how much longer do we have to suffer this clown ?

The answer to everyone's prayers is not Parrot I'm afraid.

Norwich deserved it overall effort wise, please let's sign their full backs as a priority in the summer think there's real long term potential there.

The rest of this season is dead now, can't wait to get to summer and see what happens in the window (probably more dissapointment) but we live in desperation I mean hope .

 

Well, well what a surprise. Er.... hold that.... no surprise at all. Another absolutely dismal show capped off with a miserable stinker of a shootout where the referee really should have pulled Krul up. Lamela's miss was bad enough, I'll excuse Parrott, but Fernandes has to take the medal for the absolute worst penalty I've seen in God knows how long. Once again Alli doesn't even seem to try and looks totally disinterested, Vorm shows why he hasn't had a game for over a year, Winks is less than average, Aurier his usual self... I could go on but I have to say overall I'm quite calm about it - I'm now not expecting anything other than disappointment wrapped up inside a woeful performance. We've played Norwich 3 times in 9 weeks and not deserved anything from any of the games. We've made a team rooted to the bottom of the PL look good 3 times. Some feat that guys. Absolute garbage.

 

If we have ever had a right side pairing worse than Aurier and Moura I can't remember them.
Both are useless. As are Gedson.... NDumb.... Sanchez.... Alli.... Winks..... the list goes on....

If Harry isn't sold he will run down his contract. He must look at the team and know he won't win anything here

 

Please don’t anybody try to justify that performance or the management of it.We are at home to the bottom side in the premiership with only 5 wins to their name and we start of with a goal and then sit back for the next hour until they score..Why oh why was Ali on the pitch after half time and bergwijn taken off .Our best players Skip and vertongen.Moura was better than he has been for a while so gets substituted.Why was third choice goalkeeper used.All in all a total embarrassment and one that should not be accepted by the supporters.We had become a very bad team at the end under pochetino but we are now worse. Mourino comes out after the game and says players were great because theywere playing injured.Dion Dublin agreed with me excuses excuses excuses.We may have lost if pochetino was still in charge but at least it would be more entertaining than that dross tonight
I am fast seeing that no matter who we sign Mourino can’t change the way he plays and will stifle any attractive open football

 

The three central midfielders looked to be playing too far apart. Skipp and Winks looked too deep, Lo Celso too high.

Still, one error from the third-choice GK from going through.

 

NowDier climbs into stand to confront a fan.No excuse and no professional footballer does this whatever the reason.The club has become a shambles and until we get a buyer for the club and get rid of Levy things won’t change.

 

I see in the press that Jose is going to ask the board to choose between Burnley and leipzig as the players are not capable of competing twice in 3 days..Shame they don’t do a proper job for the minimum wage seven days a week.No other manager makes such stupid comments in the press.I hope he tells us which one he is taking seriously so we can avoid the other one

 

Following on from previous threads, is there still a view that we are struggling because of our squad quality?

That Norwich side were terrible and the players in the squad Championship quality. The quality of players available for selection can’t be used as an excuse for that performance as they are a better group than what Norwich could field.

At home, against Norwich....unbelievable...didn’t want to win the FA Cup anyway

We can now focus on finishing 12th....

It is a fact that performance levels have declined and ambition is gone and it seems we now are approaching each game to get a 0-0.

And that Fernandes penalty....refund please

 

Last night

Krul is better than Vorm
Aaron's better than Aurrier
Lewis better than Jan (at lb)
CBs like for like Dier & Sanchez are average.
Winks & Skipp wouldn't get in the Norwich team.

LoCelso was the only player who was worthy of a shirt last night.

Then the catalogue of walking wounded N'Dombele & Lamela turned up for a stroll about to add to the shambolic forwards Alli & Moura.

Don't tell me this 'team' is better than Norwich it's horrific.
People need to see it for what it is.

Even before JM arrived we were the worst side to watch in the division this season and that was when the squad was bigger and had our best players in it or did everyone miss that????

Spurs fans big players up into something they're not every time.

Managers to one side this is a complete sh;t show from ENIC which some of us have been calling for ages as we stumble through window after window, season after season barely making do, continually neglecting the side and short-changing everyone but themselves.

They've managed to take this club back to the 90s without the Trophies, I hope the pro ENIC in levy we trust mob are happy they were careful what they wished for.....

 

The best stadium in the world with the best fans and that’s all we’ve got !!!! The expectation of us turning up and playing, just bloody playing would be enough for most but to perform like that and then here that “they are all hero’s for me” REALLY !!! They are all playing with injuries and are leggy REALLY !!! Why train everyday then ??? Why not rest on some sunny beach for a few weeks and play the ball boys instead ?? Let’s not look at the keeper didn’t stay on his line, Lucas should have scored or squared it, Gazza should have been in goal, Parrott should have started, Aurier, Winks, Alli at best should have stayed at home counting their money as an excuse to try and understand how, AT HOME a team of nobodies out-fort us. What tactical genius is behind the theory that all we need to do is put up three banks of defence to defend our penalty area and hit everyone on the break..... WHY !!! Every team must rub their hands with glee when they look at the fixture list as a given three points against us. All they have to do is try against us and we’ll do the rest for them. We didn’t need a new manager, we don’t need different players (Aurier being the exception) all we need is applied effort. Burnley on a windy cold bumpy pitch against a team that will run run and more running after hearing that “our boys are hero’s but are playing through the pain and are all very tired” what could possibly go wrong ???? Sack Jose, install Boris as manager, use the stadium as an isolation ward for the Corona virus as it’s already hugely infected with apathy and sell all our best players as soon as we can as they’ll never survive the amount of games they’ll need to play in the Chapionship...... FFS COYS

 

Sell immediately.....
Aurier... Sanchez... Winks... NDombele... Gedson... Moura
and Alli as he will bring in the most

 

Agree Big Fran, but we’ll get very little from selling that bunch, and with no CL I just can’t see DL getting further into debt...some lean years ahead for sure...

 

ENIC please sell the Club first........

 

The only way to show Enic and levy. Is to boycott games and affect revenue.But for some unkowm reason spurs fans will still turn up hell and high water and so we carry on with the same old mixture.Other fans protest when not happy and bring their greviances to the public domain we moan on websites.What do the supporters trust ever do in their meetings with Levy.Any other product that was the dearest would not survive in the market place but ours does

 

Krul is better than Vorm but no better than Gazzaniga
Aarons is better than Aurier although I think that could be said about most RB’s in the PL
Then you have lost me...not one of the starting players from Norwich are better than what we have available.

The fact that they are putting in poor performances is down to confidence, desire and passion - all of which has evaporated.

Winks & Skipp couldn’t get in the Norwich side? Don’t agree with that I’m afraid.

Dier and Sanchez both full internationals (and both need to be sold for different reasons) but they are still better players than the CB’s at Norwich.

Honestly, I would sell quite a few including Ndombele who clearly couldn’t care less and Alli who is so overrated, unbelievably lazy and careless.

I think we will never fully agree on this but I still believe that the reason the performances are so bad is because of the setup, style, tactics and attitude that JM is managing into them, not because we have the worse squad in the league.

Do we need GK, LB, CB, RB , DM, CAM, CF - yep

Should JM be utilising the players that we do have currently with a system that works better for them, I think it’s a yes also.

I agree with you that the fault is with Enic and Levy for not backing the growth of the team when it was needed most but I also blame them for selecting a manager whose style is outdated and doesn’t suit the PL any longer.

Again this debate will rumble on but to keep referring to the fact that Kane and Son are missing makes no sense because every side is missing key players now pretty much and as much as it’s a nightmare for us, other clubs experience the same trouble.

Which other club in world football, outside China, would want to take JM off our hands? Certainly none of the top sides in any league in Europe

 

Just wondering what has caused the total demise of our great club because although some players are obviously getting older and most people on this site think we only have duds on our playing staff this is not the full picture. Most of our players would struggle to get in another premiership team at the moment but most of them are current or former internationals so there must be talent of some kind there.I believe it started with Pochetino who tactically had not got a clue and played players out of position on a regular basis and did not see the weaknesses arising in vital positions.We had the best back four in the division but let Walker go and did not replace him.Harry obviously covered up a lot of our weaknesses because he had 2 unbelievable years but even then he was getting injured and luckily Son was filling in.No back up striker bought and pochetino let our Spanish giant leave on a free.All this time pochetino insisted we did not need any replacements as we had a strong squad.throughout this time this site was full of poch lovers saying in him we trust.Were are they now???
I still believe that we have more talent than is being shown.Ali is a good player who has lost his way Winks will be in the england squad where Southgate uses him in a specific way to suit a certain system.Sanchez ndombele decelso Aldy vertongen Foyth bergwijn Moura Gedson all current internationals so does this make all the international managers idiots.As I said I believe under pochetino we had become disorganised and lacked discipline and believed that Mourino would turn this round but unfortunately I don’t think be can especially without Kane and Son working miracles.I do feel for Mourino because he was sold down the river by Pochetino and levy but we really need a someone who isn’t protecting his reputation all the time and is prepared to upset a few people.

 

Krul is as good as Gazzanigga and Lloris he probably makes less mistakes.

You need to ask yourself from a neutral pov - you say none of the Norwich players are better than what we have available but then are any of the spurs players actually better than them in turn?

Would any Norwich City fans be thinking I wish we had players like Skipp Winks Dier Sanchez Lamela Aurrier Vorm Gazzanigga Davies etc? The answer would be mostly no because none of them improve or better any premier League side from 4th down to Norwich that's how average they are.

Then it's Alli Moura & Bergwijn , which they may be a bit more sort after coz they score the odd goal but none are players that anyone else is gonna be banging the door down for to improve their sides.

If you believe any different of course that's your opinion but I'd say it's delusional and rose tinted.

All functioning teams need balance without it you can't get a rythm or philosophy going that's why other side's look better.

When we did string a few passes together we looked decent the game was 50/50 in most parts but that's because player for player there's not much in it as much as some wish to believe they're better they're not.