Matchday discussion

I agree with can’t shoot or cross...don’t buy the rest, especially not the tackling part. He is the only player we have that covers every inch of the field and it’s generally to cover other players (LB & RB especially). He is also the only player who picks the ball up in his own half and actually makes some ground.

If only he could cross or shoot....he would be amazing

He is still the first name I would write down on the team sheet at the moment (I’m not sure what that says about the quality of the rest of our MF though).

He isn’t the best MF player in the PL or Europe but he is the best MF player in North London (which is quite funny when you think about it)

 

Ndombele could be the best midfielder in the league. He could also continue to be the uninterested passenger we have seen so far. The tough decision is sell while he is still worth something or give him time and hope he can recreate the form in the footage....not an easy decision but given our track record of turning expensive signings into disasters, I’d probably go with the sell now and try someone with PL experience

 

Kane will leave sooner rather than later.
he knows he won't win any medals here.

Son is the only player that will get into any of the top 6 teams at the moment. He'd get into most teams. The rest wouldn't get into any top 10 team.
The back 4 and midfield against united you probably couldn't give away.
Who is buying Davies, Dier, Sanchez, Aurier, Winks, Sissoko or Lamela??? .......rubbish the lot of them..... as are Ndombele & Gedson

 

At the moment Bergwijn & LoCelso look miles better contribution wise than N'Dombele, he may have potential but it's nothing without the correct attitude and videos of him doing well in a farmer's league is hardly evidence to the contrary.
He got a big fee move & wages to match how's he repaid that? A stroll about not putting much effort in looking shattered after the warm up? It's not good enough.

 

Really don't understand the clamour for ndombele. He's the same player now as the one who got hooked at Burnley in February ish. He needs to earn the managers trust especially big games that are evenly poised. May get his chance tomorrow maybe not. Who cares.

 

Now don't go throwing your baby out with the bathwater now will you?

 

Difficult to impress when stuck to the bench don't you think? The boy doesn't need to run about like a psychopath to impress. On the ball he is patently another level.

As for Ligue 1... you could write several volumes about the number of supreme talents that have been exported from there. Obviously it doesn't possess the wealth of the EPL hence why many of the world's top talents have flooded the UK... but there can be absolutely no argument that it develops better prospects. Let's be honest... the average French footballer is superior to his English counterpart, certainly for the last few decades anyway.

I want Jose to do well believe me because I want Spurs to do well. But you know, as an example, when I hear the manager jacking off about his time at Chelsea before a big rivalry game (twice now) and then we get our asses handed to us both times then I'm not impressed. The manager needs to be held accountable... and ultimately he will be. What is it? seven games now? Spurs better roll West Ham... the talent is there to do so... no more excuses thanks.

 

Well you certainly do otherwise why post?

 

Are those back 4 and midfield of the required quality to be in the team? personally I don't think they are.
Championship standard at best. all of them.

 

What's your standard Guesty? To win the title? that window has closed. We could splurge 200 million next season and there would be no guarantees... not with the wages we pay anyway.

But top 4? that's more than reasonable... indeed we should demand it now.

From the other night...

Davies... good squad player... not a starter... keep him but upgrade required.
Sanchez... good enough to start.
Dier... was good enough once but has regressed... shouldn't happen for a player of his age. Injuries perhaps? he's spent a lot of time out... keep him as a squad player and hope he returns to his best... otherwise starter required (Toby will do for one more season).
Aurier... can be very good in the final third... absolute liability in defence... sell and upgrade.
Winks... squad player at best... big trouble if he's your first option... quality upgrade is already at the club but being mismanaged presently... sell.
Sissoko... good player but not a pivot midfielder... can play multiple positions at a decent level... keep him and find a specialist in the centre if you can but not first priority.

That's my summation. This team made the Champions League final last season and went through Dortmund and City in the process and dare I say it should have beaten Liverpool on the day. There is still plenty of talent... no need to rip it completely apart... but some investment is clearly needed.

 

Matches coming hard and fast, barely done discussing the previous one and here is the next one:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51866058
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TEAM NEWS
Tottenham are boosted by the return of Dele Alli and Lucas Moura after suspension and injury respectively, while Jan Vertonghen and Michel Vorm have signed new short-term deals.

Defenders Japhet Tanganga and Juan Foyth remain sidelined.

West Ham centre-back Angelo Ogbonna has returned to training and is being assessed.

Forward Sebastian Haller again looks set to miss out, as does Robert Snodgrass due to an ongoing back issue.
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Alli is probably pushing for a start, replacing Lamela?
Moura? Impact sub?
Vertonghen? For me he is a starter and I don't understand why his contract was not extended for another year.

In the past then the fullbacks might have been rotated, rotating them now might not be possible. Rotating in the CM or the CB instead?

 

LoCelso must start. Him, Sissocco and Lloris were at required level Friday. The rest should work harder to elevate themselves. Kane may never recover, so I would like to see him on the bench at start, but it is unlikely to happen. Dier is good to go to partner Sissocco in holding MF. Davies was also good, but may be rested. So here is my lineup:

Lloris
Aurier, Toby, Sanchez, Jan
Sissocco, Dier
Lo, Dele/Steve, Son
Kane

If Kane starts at the bench, then Gedson is in.

 

Lloris
Aurier Toby Jan davies
Dier
Sissoko lo celso
Bergwjin kane son.

 

GK - Lloris
RB - Toby
RCB - Sanchez
LCB - Jan
LB - Davies
CM - Sissoko
CM - Ndombele
CAM - Lo Celso
LW - Son
RW - Bergwijn
CF - Kane

 

GK - Lloris
RB - Aurier
RCB - Sanchez
LCB - Vertonghen
LB - Davies
CM - Dier
CM - Winks
CAM - Lo Celso
LW - Son
RW - Bergwijn
CF - Kane

Hoping to see subs:
Sessegnon
Moura
Gedson
& possibly Toby to defend a lead and waste some time the last minutes

Sissoko might have been the right choice against Man U, they do have a strong midfield but against West H then I want someone who can score or assist.

 

Please Jesper not dire and winks in midfield.We need some invention not headless chickens.But I won’t be surprised if this is what we get from mr defensive

 

Hey Preed, the other posters came with suggestions. You came with no suggestions and instead you came with complaints. A great way of stopping others from voicing their opinions and shutting down debates, is that your intent?

Who would you play?

 

Not my intention Jesper just don’t think Dier and Winks works.My team lloris sissoko Sanchez aldy verts decelso ndombele Lamela son bergwijn Kane. Subs sessengon Moura Aurier gedson

 

I must admit I forgot Ali is now available and I would put him on bench and bring him on for Lamela second half

 

45 minutes of dross again.I didn’t want Ali or Moura playing and how right I was.Lamela ndombele and bergwijn please. And some movement off the ball please.I don’t think the players believe in Mourino or his tactics.Please prove me wrong in second half.Am i the only one who wished this season was over as I can’t watch this rubbish much longer and stay sane.I used to long for match days not any more and I don’t think levy will allow it to get better by taking a chance in the transfer window