Matchday discussion

Discussion in 'Tottenham forum' started by bigfran, September 14, 2018.

  1. Genevaspurs Guest

    How can you say something like this before a game and during a season where we only score goals against teams that open the game and attack? We simply don't have the players we need for the system that Ange advocates. Our wingers are weak and the midfield barely better!
     
  2. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Well what do you say now. Time to stop deluding yourself.The man is so far out of his depth it’s not true.Please Levy dont give him more money to waste Time to get some spunk and sack him before we really get embarrassed by Newcastle and Liverpool.Would not be a shock to lose to Wolves.How can anyone keep picking Son over Maddison. The midfieldis so weak and we don’t try Gray there who was theclass championship player last year.I give up thinking Levy will ever get it right
     
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    The worry is if he is sacked we get Mason please not that again
     
  4. voiceofreason Active Member

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    I do t think he is getting sacked. If you ignore that they are forest. We have actually just lost by 1-0 to the 4th places side- that in itself is not a tragedy, especially considering the injuries we have
    We do have to remember that we have the defence of the team , 3 key players out. And attack wise we have odobert Mickey and Richie out long term. It’s not an excuse but has to be considered
     
  5. Guesty Guest

    the players out can only be the reason Ange is still in post

    I love the idea of his philosophy... but clearly he needs the right players
     
  6. Preed

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    All teams have injuries but manage to cope and don’t play midfielders at centre back we must have a centre back by trade in the under 21s.Gray has done as much as he can but we need him in midfield.What a sorry state when we are begging for Verner to replace Son.He won’t risk a young centre half but will put a young midfielder there mind less
     
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  7. Genevaspurs Guest

    Totally agree but... A good manager is someone who can adapt his tactic with the players hes has. I really love the Ange's offensive mind but when you loose a lot of matches, probably due to injuries, why are you keeping always the same tactict ? To keep every matches the same wingers of a very mediocre level like Johnson and Son today with an equally bad Kulusevski supporting the attack is proof that he does not know how to adapt to the situation! Why not play with a real defensive midfielder like Bissouma in front of the defense and surround him with bentancur, madison and porro in the right lane with two advanced central forwards like solanke and Johnson or Son or werner who never manage to overwhelm anyone evening on their wings? Why ???
     
  8. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Spurs fans chased Jose Nuno & Conte out the club

    To end up with Lou Carpenter

    I told you all, you wouldn't listen and now we're reaping what you've sown.

    Instead of backing the managers you backed the **** players and gave Levy free pass after free pass.

    Then along came MATE and you thought it justified your strange derangement.

    Now we languish mid table whipping boys for the proper pl teams but it's OK coz Carra & Neville say it's entertaining
     
  9. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    I do believe Felon you and I are the only people who saw this pretender for what he is.But Baz ball is exciting is it not?Z.I personally was not entertained watching that rubbish today Nuno showed Ange how to manage a game but he won’t change.MaybeCity will want him
     
  10. Guesty Guest

    I think it's clear that Ange won't change. Perhaps he doesn't know a system that will fit the players he has so it's just easier to tell everyone it's the way he plays.
    Or..... he just doesn't have the knowledge to play other systems
     
  11. Preed

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    Sick to death whining about injuries .who would make the team if fit Romero Van de ven and Vicario that’s it.Maybe Odebert .City have more. One centre half covered by Dragusin so really only 2 first choices and still Ange uses it as an excuse.REading between the lines Kulu has said that we have tobebetter then produces his worst 90minutes this season.I believe the players no longer believe inthe Angeball
     
  12. Angelos Guest

    F*cking joke of a result … didn’t deserve to lose to that Forest arse

    Agree with you about our wingers though … Johnson is one of the worst buys I’ve seen in a long time … fancy Forest selling him to us for 50 mill and a year later they still have two better wingers than him?
     
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    What makes you think we did not deserve to lose.Nuno plays to his strengths and they had more chances than we did despite the possession stats.Goals win matches not sideways passing Accept it
     
  14. Angelos Guest

    Be thankful that we’re not United (though they do spend twice as much as us) … they sacked their manager … how is the new guy going?

    It’s the players.

    Our squad is weak (and it is absolutely run into the ground) … yet it still continues to lose when it doesn’t deserve to.

    That said … I may start lobbying for the manager’s head … just so I don’t have to see that f*cking Brennan Johnson ever play football again.

    Every single week, he’s the worst f*cking winger on the pitch.
     
  15. Angelos Guest

    Don’t start espousing the virtues of Nuno now … that sort of attrition football is not sustainable long term … and it would bore you to absolute tears

    We didn’t deserve to lose once again … lion’s share of possession … more shots … greater expected goals … and all with a team that’s gutted and has played 10 games in 30 days

    Gray is the 5th string centre back by the way … and I told you long ago how important Romero was … that should be obvious now

    Team is cursed … has the 4th best goal difference … 2nd best attack … yet sits 11th on the table?

    If our numbers were like United’s then I would be very worried … but they are not remotely … so complete bullshit
     
  16. Preed

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    Nine losses all unlucky .united have lost less than us
     
  17. Angelos Guest

    Goal difference has always been the best measure for where a team should stand … but very rarely you will see a wild aberration … like when Everton qualified for the Champions League years ago with a negative goal difference lol

    That is exactly what you’re seeing here … but in reverse

    I don’t think we have a great team at full strength … 5th best talent wise at very best … we don’t deserve to win every game … we don’t deserve to lose all these games either

    But remove both star centre backs and the starting goalkeeper … add in a star striker who might as well be out for the year … then play every 3 days … and this junk can happen … we are still getting short changed
     

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