Matchday discussion

Discussion in 'Tottenham forum' started by bigfran, September 14, 2018.

  1. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    10 defeats in last 18 league games and we are improving I think not.Relegation form normally but still the rose coloured don’t want to accept it because we play wide open and cause excitement .Usually for the opposition.Nobody else has gifted wins to the two teams who had not won a game.I see Ange has blamed himself but with the usual bullshit to save his job.!Levy has not got the bottle and whoever in charge of football matters is clueless and will not admit big mistake in hiring this pretender
     
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    Amazing how a once vibrant web has now reverted to Angelos voice of reason and me.Me definitely not convinced by Ange voice of reason still dreaming he will turn it round and Angelos in the middle.Where are the noisy ones from the last 12 months or have you given up having opinions SHAME
     
  3. Guesty Guest

    thank goodness I gave up one thing (a few seasons ago).....
    giving my hard earned money to DL
     
  4. Preed

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    Win today we are 3rd instead we blow it and are 10th .what a ridiculous season
     
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    Having tried so many permutations in midfield can anyone tell me why a talent like Gray has not been tried.Young Bergval has had 2 or3 goes with no effect but why did we buy Gray .To play full back.Utter nonsense.i suspect the sell on value if it’s down to the bald eagle
     
  6. Angelos Guest

    Another bad loss … 3rd one this season after a Thursday night Europa game.

    The team is highly inconsistent … not talented enough in spots. But is still 3 points off 3rd? Lol I guess we’re not the only ones struggling to find form.

    Goal difference/expected goals suggests we should be top 4. Things could have been quite different this year.
     
  7. voiceofreason Active Member

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    Yeah very strange so far. 1 result goes the other way (today) and we are top 3 or one other result goes the other way and we are bottom half

    I think this season has a long way to go yet and we have to get to at least half way to know where we are really at. Certainly not the time to make big changes when a different result today would have had us 3rd. Still small margins at play but… we have to beat the bottom clubs, we gave first wins to palace and Ipswich so far this season ffs!
     
  8. Guesty Guest

    we are too easy to play against with our inverted FBs.....
    teams sit and just form a box in the middle which we can't play through..... and then kill our two CBs on the break either by pulling one wide or overloading.

    I am all for Ange to succeed but it's like (some) previous managers who just won't change from their structure......and/or don't have a plan B.....
     
  9. Angelos Guest

    I appreciate what you’re saying, as our approach naturally comes with risk.

    But just as a reference 25-30% into the season, we’re 2nd in expected goals and 6th for least expected goals conceded, which seems about right from what I’ve seen.

    One damning stat though is our keeper has the 5th worst save percentage in the league. Make of it what you will.
     
  10. Guesty Guest

    ...... but our current approach has little reward for the risk

    If we can switch our FBs system during the game we would at least ask the opposition questions....
     
  11. Preed

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    Expected goals don’t win matches real goals do.If you think Ange will change with the full backs you are delusional.Its his way or no way.and soon Levy will wake up to this. It’s unbelievable that this spineless bunch could win the next two games and be in top 4.As the next 2 are City and Fulham the chances are we will lose both.Is there anybody who is really optimistic about this man because I am losing the will to watch any more.We lose most 50-50 challenges and defend like Park players.Who wanted Dragusin because he has been shocking the last 2 games and I would prefer Davies which unbelievable.Awaitng announcement that Levy has chosen wrong again.Too much talk about playing the spurs way instead of winning .the spurs way is open attacking play but mostly losing
     
  12. Genevaspurs Guest

    I unfortunately have to admit that you are completely right. Our way of defending is pitiful. Match after match! Porro is not a defender but an offensive lane player. Udogie is a less bad defender but he is not excellent in his defensive tasks either. Romero has been involved in several goals since the start of the season and Dragusin is completely lacking in confidence. Davies is a less worse solution... Or else play with 3 central defenders which will never happen with Ange...
     
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    I was looking at our record after the first 10 games last year.It is played 39 won 17 lost 17 drew 5when did we last lose 17 games in a season??Is this really progress.I doubt Mourino and Conte lost that many combined
     
  14. Angelos Guest

    So Ange’s league record is 25 wins 5 draws and 17 losses? And all without Kane?

    That seems thereabouts as a baseline for a good Spurs manager these last 20 odd years.

    You know Spurs in essence have always been a cup team. This team can win a cup. But the league is out of reach with our financial outlay. Talk to Levy about that.
     
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    Iwant us to compete for the league like Leicester did not accept defeat for ever and be a West Ham fan.If that means selling out to Saudi ok if you can’t beat them join them
     
  16. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    What utter dross this team is and Ange is completely out of his depth.

    Other managers were lynched by this fanbase for far less.

    Face it Ange is an amateur manager and just another Patsy.

    If you think he's the 1 to transform Spurs you're sorely mistaken/deluded/mentally ill.

    When you scrape 5th just after losing 7 of your last 10 matches and then go out n buy a bunch of unheard of kids then you cannot expect to improve.

    Clubs finished
     
  17. Guesty Guest

    when were we last a cup team?
     
  18. Big fran Guest

    Does anyone else not think this squad is tailor made for wing backs. Probably a class centre half short as dragusin is terrible to be fair. Could play a diamond in mid field with solanke up top.
     
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    Ange would not know what you are talking about as he has never managed at the top level and with Celtic he just had to pick 11 players each week to stroll to victory
     
  20. Angelos Guest

    You’d have to ask Levy about that … but to be proper fair we’ve lost quite a few finals/semis in his time here.

    What is 100% clear, we’ve never been a league team … 2 titles in a 120 plus years.
     

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