Matchday discussion

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  1. Spurporter Well-Known Member

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    Not on direct header. Stop wrongfully picking on me, please.
    As to critisism, you want an attcking football, you will get the defense problems. Even the best of the best concede due to imperfect defence. That is because the personnel you have for attcking style know how to play with the ball. Without the ball, you have to teach still on how to play often with little to no success. Nuno will do that, but I doubt that someone like Ndombele will dramatically improve in it.
    This is a team sport. Entire team to attack, the entire team to defend. The footballers that good at both (like Thiago or Ramos or Kane or entire Bayern) are rear and very expensive. Once assembled they will make a champion team. Spurs cannot afford to buy an established two-way performers, like City or now Chelsea do. We can only hope to grow them from the kids with promice we buy on the cheap.
    Ndombele purshase was a mistake, therefore. He would be a good last peace for the already rebuilt team that can afford a defensive mistakes from an excellent dribbler. He should be sold now that we are in rebuild. Levy pushased him out of desperation due to folded Fernandez deal in the hope it will help Poch to right the ship. Well, it didn't. It took too much attention from Mourinho and now Tanguey is a burden for Nuno as well. I, obviously, wish Nuno a succes with Ndombele, but he is 25 already, too old of a dog for new tricks. All he can do is being disciplined. Discipline is good, but have never helped a lot to anyone. It can't supplant a talent.
     
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  2. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    I am not picking on you Spurporter just your opinions that I don’t agree with.Let’s agree to differ and conclude we see the game differently.As I have said at least I admire you for being prepared to state your case which a lot on this site seem to have stopped doing
     
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  3. Guesty Guest

    Spurporter..... you are right about NDombele..... he will never improve and needs be sold.

    ..... along with about 12 others

    The problem....... Let wants top money for sh1te
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    What a performance of a first half .Pub team .Please someone buy out Enic and get rid of levy.The most embarrassing I have been watching spurs for years and years
     
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    said it before.......very pleased I no longer give my money to Enic/Levy...... home or away.

    Couldn't watch the game..... but did we start with Dele & NDumb!?!? ha ha ha those two battling to win the ball!!!!!
    ....... thankfully if they got passed them there was always Dier & Sanchez.......
    too many players not fit to wear the shirt......even the training ones
     
  6. Jesper Active Member

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    The Ars match.....
    Expecting Ndombele to do the hard work that comes with playing in a 433 does not quite make sense to me. He is skilled with the ball but when he does not have the ball then he runs as if he was carrying a backpack weighing 45kgs. Lumbering about.
    Midfield looked very very bad in the first half & allowed/enabled some dangerous counter-attacks for Ars.

    2nd half was better. Maybe Kane should have gotten a penalty. No idea how Xakha escaped being carded & same about Aubamayang. But Xakha nothing? Slapping Ndombele in the face then wrestling him down to stop a counter.

    Gil wants to play and he has the skills to play. Start Gil from now on. Let Ndombele play in the ECL and when desperate in other matches.
    Seen a few instances now when a senior player blames a junior player for a mistake made by the senior player. Not happy about that and I believe it is bad for team-spirit.
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Can any body really believe what happened to day and how do we get through till January.Deli Ali and Ndombele should only play in the European games as they are both total liabilities.Please don’t come on here and praise the skill of the waster Ndombele because he should be ashamed of his fitness as should the spurs staff whose job it is to get him fit.How can you compete when your midfield is the two wasters I have mentioned and Hojbjerg who thinks he is a centre half.Our midfield today was emptied at times and there was no effort to get back.Defensively we must try Romero and Rodon or go for 3 at the back.A manager with some imagination might try some thing different and move either Emmerson or Dier into midfield because the must be better than Ali andN dombele and might add some steel.Gil must play and at the moment I would play Son Moura and Gil and sit Kane on the bench then maybe we will get someone in the opposition penalty area.Forget Levy’s bullshit about attacking football as it ain’t going to happen.We will revert todefensive garbage and if so we may have well kept Mourino.I predict Nuno gone by Christmas and we will be looking for another cheap option.Levy probably is delirious today because he made money on the big fight'Much more important than the football
     
  8. THFC Guest

    The first half performance was disgraceful. Lack of effort and shape with CM missing for the bulk of the half. We made a very poor Arsenal side look half decent. Second half wasn’t much better in all honesty, we only had the perception of improvement because they fell away…not because we were any good.
    Kane needs to be sold so we can reinvest, I really hope that City still need a CF in January or no one will want him.
    Alli shouldn’t play again
    Nuno will be lucky to get through October at this rate.
    We have gone backwards 10 years in the last 3 seasons
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Can’t believe that we spent 93 million on 2 defenders and a winger and all 3 were on the bench today while 2 defenders reviled on this website. Dier andSanchez both played.Just seen Nunos press conference and the man talks absolute rubbish .He is totally out of his depth.Recomended by our Director of football.Does not fill you with confidence for the future.We can’t sack Nuno this early but I really fear for the total lack of understanding this man has .By the way arses right back wanted to come to us and we would not pay the fee and today he was excellent.Another Levy **** up.Shows how bad we are when THFC and I agree wholeheartedly
     
  10. Jesper Active Member

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    Strangely enough the midfield that played the first half and did it well against Chelsea played so poorly against Ars.
    The goal that was preceded by a mistake from Kane came when Kane had dropped down into midfield and a midfielder had pushed up higher on the pitch possibly to fill the position vacated by Kane. A midfielder should (would?) have known not to try something difficult there.
    As is then the quality of players aren't good enough for that kind of switching and I'd prefer Spurs to master a formation before trying to jazz it up by switching around.

    Gil looks ready for serious amount of minutes and Ndombele doesn't seem to want many minutes so out of the two then play the one who wants it. Hopefully Lo Celso can get to play, if he doesn't come good then the list of most expensive signings for Spurs looks bad:
    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/transferrekorde/verein/148
    Not sure how many of the top10 transfers are seen as good...
     
  11. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    I remember years of getting abuse on this site for calling out how poorly ran we are by ENIC and that the Stadium wouldn't change a thing.
    Some very snotty pretentious arseholes would come on here giving it the Negative/See the bigger picture/careful what you wish for/remember the 90s/enjoy the ride/get behind the team/go support Chelsea....
    Funny you can't find them anywhere now, I'm still here and I'm still telling it how it is and always has been.

    ENIC are a disease, Levy is the biggest Charlatan in football, our squad is appalling and we will never be successful under this ownership.

    We are excuses FC with loser mentality entrenched within.

    That performance today was just a reflection of the bar setting from the board.
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Could not agree more Felon .I remember back to the poch days when people were queuing up to tell everybody how we had good players and it was just a question of time before every thing was rosy in the garden .These people have stopped posting I wonder why???
     
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  13. Guesty Guest

    The fact that we can’t pick a quality defence or midfield says everything.
    Sanchez, Dier, Dele, NDumb shouldn’t be first choice
     
  14. THFC Guest

    Sad thing is, we have Romero, Rodon, Skipp and Gil who may actually do alright if they were picked

     
  15. Guesty Guest

    unfortunately DL will tell Nuno that he wants his (£100m) talent of Sanchez & NDumb on the pitch before Rodon & Skipp or Gil
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    I don’t believe any manager worth his salt would let the chairman pick the team although how Ali Sancho and Dier keep getting picked is beyond my imagination..A good manager would have seen the trouble being caused by keeping Kane .We could have gone for Toney who looks up for a fight and would have fitted in with Son.How much longer can the club afford the idiocy of Levy trying to be the big man and messing up to keep his ego intact.I believe most chairman won’t tolerate him and this means we will get overcharged for transfers to counter his ludicrous demand(ie) Winks for40 million.I have never seen so poor press after a match in all the years I have supported spurs.Ludicrous as it may seem we would probably do better under Allardice who would have a system.Nuno admitted he picked wrong team for his plan if he ever had one.
     
  17. Spurporter Well-Known Member

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    I have not. I couldn't watch the game. But from what I read Goons scored on 3 lucky shots in top corners from the distance. I that true?
     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    God are you really a spurs supporter Spurporter because either you are just taking the p*** if you believe what you said butI don’t think you are serious.
     
  19. THFC Guest

    That is not true

     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    I see Tomiyasu was man of the match against us.This is the player we would not pay 17 million for so Arsenal did .We paid25 million for Emmerson instead
    Guess who got the bargain.We are being conned by agents particularly Mendez who seems to have Paratici on a string
     
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