Captain Kaboul: Complacent & clumsy leader

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  1. notnats

    notnats Well-Known Member

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    In terms of leaders and leadership most players in this team are still very much of an unknown quantity as most are either reletively new or reletively young. Lets face it theres hardly a player that would be considered as first team or regular thats been around for more than a season or two. As much as we have to accept Kaboul as the captain for now, I dont myself see him as a true leader, nor do I see him as long term. As the team becomes more established and settled into a team with more confidence and an identity its then that I hope and expect to see some real leadership to emerge from the current crop
     
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  2. notnats

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    Its much simpler than that Fran, you are either a football fan Fran or you are a football man Fran. Which one are you? are you a football fan Fran or are you a football man Fran?
     
  3. Mattj78

    Mattj78 Well-Known Member

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    Blimey, thats a tongue twister!!
     
  4. Mattj78

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    I will be interested to see how we line up this weekend against the Baggies. I feel that we could give them a similar run around as we did against QPR and I am really looking forward to the game. We usually have a hangover from Europe, but now that Poch has seen this happen once, I am confodent he wont be letting it happen again.
     
  5. Ramos43

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    Fans are fickle, often changing their minds to fall in line with latest trends. Give Kaboul a few solid performances, and a couple of match-winning goals, and he'll soon be the darling of all those who doubted him.

    I like Fazio as a personality both on and off the field. I think £8m is an absolute steal for a player of his reputation and calibre, when you consider that the going rate for an established centre-back nowadays seems to be around the £15million+ mark.

    Strong, technically sound and dominant in the air, Federico is a good reader of the game whose distribution skills with the ball at his feet are unusually assured for such a large man.

    Another one who seems to have developed some leadership skills as his career has progressed, Fazio has the kind of air of authority about his game that leads me to believe once he gets into the 1st team, and gets to grips with the pace of EPL, he will be a very hard man to dislodge from the team.

    For a club that usually struggles to find fit CB's at some point during the season, it appears that those issues will now be confined to the past, as Spurs can boast a plethora of defensive options within their current squad.

    Personally, I'm NOT one who subscribes to the notion that you can't rotate your centre-halves to counter-specific threats (i.e the strength and height of Carroll. Or the pace, agility and quick feet of Aguero). So it's good to know that MP has plenty of alternatives should he be of a similar mind-set to me.

    Providing the potential new partnerships are given their legs in training, and both centre-halves are willing to make the (perhaps, extra) effort to communicate both before, and during the game in relation to a plan of action, I see absolutely no reason why all/most of our CB's shouldn't be involved in both league and cup games, indiscriminately.
     
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  6. Mattj78

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    To win games, you have to adapt tactics to the specific team you are playing against, although you want to be keeping the core the same for the progress of the team.
    I agree that the centre backs will HAVE to be rotated for specific threats and that is just common sense.
    Just because Kaboul is club captain, does not mean he cannot and will not be dropped as necessary.
     
  7. Ramos43

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    LOL....Give up already, Fran! Your only making yourself appear bitter and desperate, my friend. This was a battle that was won the moment you resorted to using childlike insults and personal jibes as your point of attack. :rolleyes:

    Listen, you don't need a Michelin Star to be a good cook. You don't need a fashion degree to have a great sense of style. And, you don't need a certificate in order to have an extensive knowledge and deep understanding of the beautiful game they call Futbol (in Brazil). It's as simple as that!

    So, before you attempt to make a joke out of The Ram, make sure you can deliver the punchline, eh!!! And Felon, you aren't doing him any favours by supporting his behaviour, mi amigo....You are simply setting him up, for a, even, greater fall.

    Now, where were we?.... Ah, yes, Fazio, and that WONDERFUL personality of his!


    Off the field- Determined, strong-willed, ambitious, intelligent, composed, self-assured and extremely professional, Ferderico will no doubt be a welcome addition to a Spurs dressing room that has been accused on occasions of lacking characters/strong personalities.

    He will be an example to others on the training field, and a clear and commanding voice in the dressing room. He is a man who brings with him a REAL presence to WHL. A charming and charismatic individual, Fazio will be a popular and well respected figure amongst his peers.

    On the field - Aggressive, authoritative, street-wise, methodical, shrewd, determined and commanding, the Argentine will give Spurs the type of competitive edge that I believe the team has been missing since perhaps Scott Parker left the club.

    He has an almost 'nasty streak' about him when he goes on the pitch, which I ABSOLUTELY LOVE and welcome at this club. He's the type of guy that will relish the physical nature of the EPL, not just because he is 6ft 4ins, but because he has that aggressive/ competitive/ egotistical element to his character that will push him to prove, not only to himself, but to others, that he will NOT be a pushover in English football (does that count as a pun?) o_O

    There was an incident in the Liverpool match leading up to the first goal where Sterling turned Vertonghen by the halfway line, leaving the Belgian WAY out of position, attracted the attention of 4/5 other Spurs players and - yet despite the warning signs ringing away in my mind at that point - no one laid a glove on the young winger!

    It was an telling moment in the game which stunk of a Spurs team that had lost their heads/composure, and lacked an in-game intelligence to know when to 'take one for the team'!

    It was a part of the Liverpool teams make up that I REALLY admired on the day. Knowing when to halt danger/momentum with a cheeky, or even 'professional', foul to help them regain their positioning and sense of stability. They allowed Spurs 'to play' in the areas of the pitch that they wanted them to play in.

    It was an EXTREMELY intelligent/cunning approach to the game that The Reds took that day, ,which largely went unnoticed/unmentioned by the masses, and it is something that Fazio will bring to Spurs, in the hope that some of that nous/know how will rub of on his team mates.

    Fazio would of been likely to assume control in that position, and take Sterling out the moment he was turned and caught in no mans land. As it was Vertonghen allowed him to continue in the HOPE someone would bail him out trouble, if need be.

    You MUST be aware, as a defender, of your surroundings, your own limitations/abilities and who you are coming up against. Vertonghen appeared ignorant/naive to all of those things at that particular time.

    Like a lot of South American players, Fazio has the capacity to be a fiery character on the pitch, but also maintains enough composure to understand when to pick his moments. With that being said, expect the big man to pick up his fair share of yellow cards this term.

    I reckon that should just about cover it. :cool:

    Oh, and if you, or Felon, decide you want to back up your claims and deliver me an EXACT quote of what it is I was SUPPOSED to of said, than you know where to find me! :D

    Hey, listen, you don't have to like me to realise I know what I'm talking about. Of course there will be some on here that talk simply for effect, but understand, my friend, Ramos is NOT one of them!
     
  8. Mattj78

    Mattj78 Well-Known Member

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    Kaboul is captain. We are spurs. I think this topic is done now. Come on you spuuuuuuurrrrrsssss!!!
     
  9. Ramos43

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    Nothing to do with Kaboul, really. BF had posted a comment, earlier, suggesting I didn't know what Fazio was like as a personality despite claiming to. I was simply setting the record straight.

    The comment he left has now been removed, but I'm sure he has seen mine. ;)

    Anyway, all good fun, and in the name of entertainment, eh! Can't wait for the next game to roll on now, I'm having withdrawals already.

    Who'd of thought there'd ever be a day when Spurs play with TWO inverted wingers and nobody says a word about it!How things have changed. Exciting times ahead.

    Bring on Belgrade!!!
     
  10. big fran Guest

    Come on Ramos in the words of Delia let's be having u don't keep us in suspenders!!!
     
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  11. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Are you missing me Ramos?
    Ive made my points quite clear, i think a Club Captain must show the characteristics i described, you have shown that you think a player that watches players run into his own box and doesnt put a challenge in or watches basic reachable crosses go past him and has low confidence is great and obvious captain material.
    Ramos- An over optimistic credulous opinion on all things Spurs does not give you a higher deep understanding/knowledge of the game and your contemptuous opinion of others intelligence etc is exactly what you like to tout 'ignorant'.
    We differ in opinions (thank god) i want to see the team and players deliver and show passion for the cause, you like to talk up underperformers/sub standard players and make constant excuses for failure.
    Now please take your own advice and lets put this to bed i would hate to have you or I to sound desperate.
     
  12. Ramos43

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    Lol...Still no (accurate) quotes then? Nah, Im just kidding! You're right, lets put this all to bed. We can chalk it all up to experience, eh! ;)
     

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