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  1. THFC Guest

    Unless I’ve been watching someone else, Dier is not good enough at all. He has a great range of passing sideways and backwards, no further than 10 yards. Milk turns quicker than he can run and if anyone with pace gets at him, he’s done (with feet planted in the turf as you have said). I’m not sure I buy the comments somewhere else on here that he’s part of the spurs family like certain other players. We signed him from Sporting and am not sure he has the same loyalty/desire for the club that say Winks,Kane or Tanganga (based on his comments this season) would have.

    You hit the nail on the head with the CDM we need...IMO we need a kante/ndidi type that has heaps of energy, isn’t scared to tackle and has the ability to pass forwards/drive forwards at pace. Sissoko is 70% the player....just can’t pass or shoot which is a shame because his effort, power and energy make him nearly my favourite player. Then he scuffs a simple 5 yard pass or shoots at the corner flag and he drops down my list again :)


     
  2. Luckyluciano New Member

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    It would appear that Jose wants teams to press and leave space behind them for Moura and Son to exploit and if they got there passes right we could have got a couple of goals on the break not the most effective or exciting way to play but not sure how long it can go on Ndombele appears to be like that great Sunday morning player who bosses it until he gets kicked then he goes and hides if he can toughen up a bit he could be unbelievable but only time will tell
     
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    It may not be the most exciting way to play, however, i think it is a very effective way to play if the players execute those crucial passes and score.

    Dier: Agree dier probably not one of the true spurs family like winks and kane. He did want to leave for Mun.u after all. Probably got a year at most to prove himself. After summer TW, i doubt he will make match day squad when all are fit.

    Ndom. Needs time to adjust to the physical contact of the prem which is probably 3 times higher than in ligue1. Like son who took a year to settle some players aren't used to the fouls and it shakes them up. Ndom gets clattered a lot and you can see he's just not used to it. I would be happy with 30min cameos for now, however, if he is going to make it in the prem then he will have to toughen up. I hope he does as he is a very good player.

    Sanchez: I think San is currently spurs best defender. Toby has been at fault for more goals and his 1v1 defending is not as good as it used to be. San is improving as a defender and marks the fast players better than Toby. San's biggest problem is his passing which at times puts spurs under pressure. San is going to be 24 soon, he is only going to get better. Also he has tight hamstrings, must be painful? and still plays well, most games.
     
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    Bazza47 Well-Known Member

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    For me it’s not Moura’s fault that he can’t hold the ball up - there are plenty of Brazilians in strike roles that can’t. We should never set up with 3 at the back for me, we just don’t have the quality. Dele made the difference, a big one. Tanganga at CB...possibly, but be careful when we choose to try him out.
     
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    Dier a worry, as just not improving. Cumbersome.

    Ndom....wtf have we got there....

    Sanchez....I must watch a different game, if he’s our best defender. For sure he can’t kick a ball, which is a bit of a worry - I’m relying on Ledley to turn him around....
     
  6. Spurporter Active Member

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    Man City is out UCL for FFP violations. 5th place in this season will get in, therefore. COYS!!!
     
  7. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    This is where we're at now, this is the football equivalent of holding a painting competition for the kids handing out awards to the best 3 and then giving 1 more out to the slow kid who for once got more on the paper than on themselves.
     
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  8. voiceofreason Active Member

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    Keep that glass half full Felon! Everyone on here has agreed that we are not in a great place as a team at the moment and that champions league football next year is going to be a hard ask. So the fact that we may get a chance to qualify in 5th place if we can’t get up to 4th is great. Ideally we want to qualify by winning it or getting in the top 4 but if this Man City debacle helps get us in , then great

    Lets beat Villa tomorrow and put some pressure on Chelsea so the 5th place becomes a moot point
     
  9. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    It's false 'success' though , so the con continues that we're competitive (if we get it), just glosses over the sheer negligence and how far backwards we've gone.
    We are becoming everything we took the piss out of scum for being.

    Embarrassing
     
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    Well it’s 3 more points after a struggle against a team that we should beat easily.Our defending at the moment is appalling especially from corners.. We waste chance after chance to put the game to bed which shows why the non purchase of a striker was a big mistake.I Hope Mourino was saving de celso for Wednesday because Dier really is not up to it anymore.Toby is fast becoming as slow as verts and I still don’t have any faith in Sanchez inDecision making.Surely Tanganga should now be central.One bonus was Winks having his best game for a long time.Just think the tight Levy turned down the chance to buy grealish for 6 million not long ago now he is probably worth 50 million.
     
  11. voiceofreason Active Member

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    It’s funny. I remember when we were interested and linked with him and most people on here were criticising the fact that the best we could try and sign was an English guy from the championship. How times change. Whinge about going after a cheap English guy from the championship and then whinge about not having got the cheap English guy from the championship !!
     
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  12. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    I'll be the 1st to admit that I wasn't overly enthusiastic when Grealish was our 1 and only attempted 'big' signing during that window.
    Little did we know then what was to come that we'd sign nobody at all and then end up with relying on sulky Eriksen etc.

    If you ask now I'd say yes over Lamela & Moura any day of the week and his all round game offers more than Alli aswell.

    But wasn't it your great leader Levy who mucked it up anyway and then later on purchased what looks like a dud in Sessegnon instead for 3 times as much?

    I also remember certain people saying we didn't need to sign anyone , don't need a back up Striker , can't improve what we have and that itl just get better if we just believe.......
     
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  13. voiceofreason Active Member

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    “My great leader Levy”? Don’t think I have ever referenced Levy or the owners of the club in a post
     
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    So logic gives MOTM to Sonny, but the best performance was Grealish. The lad’s worked his nuts off all season for Villa and is more than capable of going to the Euros.

    When him and Maddison were featuring in the Championship, they were stand out performers for me, Grealish a gifted player, Maddison not as good at beating his man, but has goals in him. The pair would have cost £30m......enough said. You just cannot pass up on talent like that, then go and spunk £70m on Sicknote.

    With Lo Celso emerging as a talent, what a midfield duo him and Grealish would have been.....if only.

    Yesterday....how to miss at least 6 glorious chances and struggle to beat them, despite Grealish’s heroics. Well done Sonny. Wednesday will be a good marker of our progress under JM.....memories of Bayern still haunt me.

    COYS
     
  15. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Still swerving the points though I see
     
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    Voice of reason you never saw me posting thar I didn’t want a championship player in grealish. To anybody who watches football regularly could see the boy is a talent apart from Levy and Pochetino
     
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  17. voiceofreason Active Member

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    Preed

    You will notice my comment didn’t say you were against it. I was well aware that you hadn’t expressed contrary comments, I was stating how things changed from whinging about not wanting him (others, including Mr Felon) to now a turnaround and complaining we should have bought him

    Felon

    what swerve? I’ve never said we didn’t need people, never said we were complete, I have however,said on many occasions I was enjoying the last few years where we were finally classed as top 4 or 6. I try and look for what is good with what we have Like for example we just one the game and are 1 point from 4th but this doesn’t get a mention
    Maybe you need to avoid looking for clever replies and accept that in your opinion bad decisions were made over the last few years but now there is a new manager and it will take time to see where that goes but short term he did more business in the January window that we were used to so some things have changed. So look forwards rather than backwards, seems pointless complaining about what you can’t change?
    Anyway, here’s to a good cl game!
     
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  18. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Bad decisions were made , not in my opinion but fact proof was in the pudding where we couldn't buy a win, had no enthusiasm, bad attitudes and ended in the Fitness Coaches sacking after looking miserable for months.
    If you want my view on JM I'm extremely pleased with the work he's doing, to pick up the absolute shambles he did and turn it round is nothing short of a miracle.
    All could have been avoided tho if not for neglect by Poch & Levy.
    I've not been overly vocal on the matter because I'm giving JM time to get his own team together which is currently short by at least 4 players so as to 'not complain' , the style isn't great but it's a darn site better than its been for the past year n s half and it's getting results.
    So what else is there to say?
     
  19. voiceofreason Active Member

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    That’s great Felon. Looking to the future and not harping on about spilt milk is the best I could hope for
    Moving on to the next game. I hope lo celso starts and in theory Ndombele should be better suited to a European game. Be good to keep Dier away from the starting line up and hopefully Hugo gets some practice at claiming corners and crosses before then
     
  20. Spurporter Active Member

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    VAR helped Spurs twice tonight to close on Chelsea with only one point of separation remaining. COYS!!
     

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