Spurs-Wolves, 1st of March 2020

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  1. Jesper Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51601977

    Might this be the interesting part?
    "Despite winning three of their last four in the league, Spurs' striker crisis leaves them vulnerable. Wolves' defence has been impenetrable recently anyway while up front the goals have been flowing again.

    The day starts with Tottenham higher in the table but it might not end that way."

    A 4-3-3 formation with Alli in the Firmino-role?


     
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  3. Spurporter Active Member

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    I think still 4-2-3-1 will be played. It is Bergwijn's turn to play #9. or false #9.

    Aurier-Toby-Sanchez-Tanganga
    Ndobele-Winks
    Lucas-Dele-Gedson
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  4. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    The season is a right off the only thing going in our favour is wolves played yesterday even then they had the comfort of resting a few.
    If we get a result itl be another stink out masterclass performance can't wait......

    Record profits though again
     
  5. Jesper Member

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    Strange line-up. Possibly another match with a back 5? Dier in the back 5? Or is it a back 4 with Tanganga or Davies vs Traore? If it is a 4-2-3-1 then the speedy wingers might be Bergwijn and Moura but who is the striker then?
     
  6. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like we are winging it just, big 2nd half ahead will be a good result to keep hold of the 3 points
     
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    Moura is a goal-scorer who hasn't scored in a while, not sure if it is time to play someone else. Time for Lamela? Am undecided about Lloris, if he had played then he might have saved one or two of the goals but he has his weaknesses.

    Formation looked like a 5-2-3 when defending and a 3-4-3 when attacking. At least it was exciting to watch.
     
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    I am sorry to have to say this but I wanted poch out and was pleased when Mourino came in but I am afraid that I didn’t listen to the people who said that his last two jobs proved that he was yesterday’s man.Now I’m convinced .Forget the fact that he has been unlucky with injuries to his strikers just look at the total lack of organisation especially in defence.I know that poch and levy have allowed our squad to become what it is but we still have better players
    than the Burnley’s of this world but we are fast heading for our worst league finish for 20 years.A couple more defeats will see us out of the top half.Once again Moura is poor and still Parrot can’t get 5 minutes.Toby has been struggling but is still our best defender but is on the bench.A back four should be settled not changed every week.How sad that our only attacking threat is a fullback who can’t defend.On today’s performance Tanganga has a lot to learn but with no midfield cover it is hard for any back four.Winks captain for the day really..???
    I am afraid that we have a lot more pain to come and don’t be surprised if Mourino is gone by the summer
     
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  9. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    The squad is appallingly put together , so many bang average players that don't Excell at anything.
    Our 2 best players out long time and it just exposes how much they save the team time n time again.
    Was pitiful in the end just like the last year n a half.

    As I said start of season about our transfer buisness LoCelso was an Eriksen replacement, N'Dombele was a Dembele replacement and Sessegnon was a Rose replacement none of which have been an upgrade so really the only attempt at improving this team since the 17/18 season is Bergwijn & Gedson.
    That's the ambition of this club and the reason we are so poor now.
     
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    Based on what I saw today then I'd say that Jimenez is now a more attractive buy than Kane, he scores about the same amount of goals, is less injury prone and is more of a team-player.
    Wolves look very strong this year and unless their best players are bought then they look like a team who will be a strong competitor for top 4 for the next couple of seasons.
     
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    Dear Felon, How to forget Mourinho in this analysis? Ok the squad is not very good but how to leave almost all the match on the ground a defense which was exceeded with each attack of the wolves? How to leave Dele 95 minutes when it is so bad? How can you not dare to bring in Parrott earlier when you lose 3-2 with about 20 minutes to play? How do we make Winks - a championship player - our captain when everything he does offensively does nothing (out no goal/no assis man...) ? And how to leave your defense with so little filter in the midfield? Shame on you, Mourinho! Under Pocchetino we weren't great, but here, we become ridiculous!
     
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  12. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with Alli, Parrot & Winks comments entirely but unless there's much credible other options what else can be done?
    This is Pochettinos mess, JM currently is being crucified if he plays defensive and then he's crucified when we go forward because of how poor the defence is.
    All 3 of Wolves goals were from defenders ball watching instead of marking or reading the game that's not on Jose that's on ability and on pitch organisation or the sheer lack of to be precise.
    When are these incompetent half hearted players gonna take some responsibility ?
    Or these parasitic owners ?
    It seems they all get a pass every game for zero commitment, errors everywhere, zero leadership, limited movement, slow passing.... The list is endless , unless JM is gonna put a kit on and run the Defence and Midfield its a bit hard to just pin the blame on him for this lack of basics within a professional sports team.
     
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    Sorry felon I don’t often disagree with you but if the goals came from ball watching is not that what a coach stops players doing by his coaching methods.i agree with you that the quality is missing but there is no way is he using the players to their best abilities.You and I were both critical of Pochetino over the last 2 years but that does not mean his replacement is going to get a free pass if his ideas are just as confusing .Surely you can see some fault in his continuing excuses and total lack of judgement of a player.I can’t remember when Moura last had a half decent game but is ever present .Also what has he done to improve ndombele or sessengon and by telling everybody that Parrot is not ready yet.What has that done to the boys confidence even if he is correct keep it in house
     
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  14. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    If we are talking defenders, Poch had almost completely squeezed Toby out he was on verge of leaving, Aurier contributed nothing under him also, Tanganga wasn't getting a look in and we were flipping from 3 to 4 to 5 at the back with anyone's guess who'd be playing where and what we had was an error prone slow defence.
    Has JM improved on this? Id say Aurrier is a better player under JM, I'd rather have Toby than not and Tanganga looks 10 times better than Foyth.
    So I'd judge him more on that if we're talking about what the manager is doing.
    The problem is that we have no protection in front of them and they're either slowing or simply not good/intelligent enough players.
    You can't make certain players top 4 level, some might get carried there but they soon get exposed especially when the better players aren't performing or aren't available.
    This squad is littered with average players many with talent that would just about get them in the relegation sides but with a work rate/end product and attitude that would only get them on the bench.
    What have N'Dombele and Sess done to improve their selves? 1 can't last 20 minutes without breaking down the other looks scared and doesn't even have a specific position he's any good at.
    I'm all for Parrot getting a chance but is this where we are at pinning our hopes on an 18yr old boy in the hopes he drags our team out of this mess?

    When it comes to the defence what would you do differently than what Poch & now JM have/are doing?
    They're all the same players except JM has less options than Pochettino had and the 2 stalwarts legs have gone.
     
  15. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Just look at the 2 line ups today player for player Wolves are/were superior that's what people need to understand the current squad isn't good enough it's been neglected and weakened over time with poorer replacements, ageing players, players sold and not replaced, serial underperformers clung to.....

    The whole thing needs a major overhaul, Son & Kane carry the whole circus
     
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    Sorry felon we will have to agree to disagree.Aurier has improved under Mourino as an attacker but is still a total liability as a defender and is out of position usually when we concede.i would rather have Toby in than Sanchez but don’t tell me Mourino has improved him because he has not.most teams have a settled back four and don’t change every game.I know we don’t have world class defenders but please decide on a system and stick to it that’s what coaching is.Who would have thought we would miss Sissoko so much in midfield.Our midfield does not do the defensive duties it should but with the liabilities at full back they have their work cut out.I really want Mourino to succeed but at the moment I don’t think he can change his ways and come to terms with the current day football.But having said that would I trust levy to do anything positive for the playing side of the club NO
     
  17. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Mourinho has 7 defenders to work with 2 full backs, 1 a liability 1 bang average. 5 CBs Toby Jan Sanchez Tanganga Foyth, 2 are struggling due to age, Sanchez has gone massively backwards, Foyth has always been sh;te and finally Tanganga who has about 5 games under his belt.

    Pochettino had all of these plus Rose plus KWP plus Trippier so had more choice which offers more flexibility, different tactics etc yet was still a complete shambles way before his sacking.

    So tell me what you'd do different that Mourinho could do with such limited options?

    With the personnel at hand how would you set up to be better defending?
     
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    I mean seriously if there were any better personnel I could genuinely understand the frustrations but this has been unfolding for over a year/year n a half and the only difference is it's been weakened.
     
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    when did Foyth get a game at all under Mourino!.??I personally have always thought Wales used Davies in his best position which was one of three in a back five.I would play him there with Toby and Sanchez with sessengon and tanganga. At wing back and stick with it in training to get it right.stop saying that Mourino has not got anything to work with as he was brought in to improve the defensive shambles left by Poch but all he does is moan about lack of strikers.Even if Kane and Son were fit our style wouldn’t change .Do you think he ever thinks outside the box and would try to do something different like Sheffield United who have two attacking centre halves and don’t have super star strikers But still defend properly.I know that Sanchez and foyth have not set the world alight but they are both very young and both seem to get in there national teams on a regular basis so they must have some ability so must be able to improve with good coaching.This is my gripe with Mourino at the moment that he seem capable of improving our defensive work at all
     
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    far too many players who are not top6 capable.
    dress it up with formations but JM cannot improve them enough.

    If we are to remove the dross it will take a few transfer windows.
    And of course we need to have clubs who want to buy them.

    Having said that....JM really needs to pick a back 4 and stick with it.
    He also needs to pick a DM and leave him there.

    I can see JM sacrificing Kane and Alli to bring in funds.
    And NDumb if we will ever see a fraction of what we paid for him.
     
  21. Spurporter Active Member

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    I think Spurs could have kept Poch, have same results with him and save money paid to MP and JM (his pay is double of Poch) to fund the rebuild the squad is needed. Mou is no doubt more accomplished manager and the one, I am sure, that will be able to make Levy to spend on quality performers, but the money invested in change so far looks lake a waste. I only hope to be as wrong as P reed is.
    Norwich is next. Let us hope for the FA cup. COYS!!!
     
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