Spurs-Everton Sep 13 2020

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Who had the better approach to transfers (so far)?

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  1. Jesper Active Member

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    The BBC pre-match:
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54045208

    First match of the EPL-season, two different approaches to transfers: Spurs tried to strengthen weak areas while Everton went for big name signing and replacing the midfield.

    Hoping for a 2-0 win for Spurs with Son and Kane scoring.


     
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  3. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    A 3rd choice GK (not wanted by West ham or Burnley)
    A DM to plug the gaping hole in the side since Wanyama broke down 2 years ago.
    And a RB.

    No replacement still for CE, Janssen, Llorente, Jan. (And arguably Dembele)

    Lamela still stealing a living at the club.

    Zero depth, zero ambition

    Banter club
     
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    Spurs needed a ball winning Cm, could do with adding one more so PEH on paper looks like a good signing.
    Is Doherty an upgrade on Serge? I would say yes going forward, however, not sure how good Doherty is at defending.

    My biggest concern is a Dier/ Toby Cb pairing i don't think that pairing is good enough, Sanchez/Toby to me is a better combination.

    Today's match with no preseason is about being in good shape.
    I think it will be spurs 2-1 or 1-1 draw. Coys
     
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    First half done Same rubbish Winks and Moura useless Ali not much better.why is Bergwin not in front of Moura.Docherty our best player so far .Get your finger out Mourino and shake this lot up
     
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    Preed Active Member

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    I was hoping that Mourino had worked out how to get a tune out of this bunch of no hopers but I was wrong.Todays performance was by far the worst under his management so far.His judgement of a footballer is not what I expected from someone who has won so much.How can he continually start with Winks and Moura who should not be in any first eleven.I can’t say any body in the squad would have got more than 3 out of ten today.There did not appear to be any formation and when we went one down where was the urgency and passion.I know it’s our first game but Hojbjerg was appalling and docherty looked okay but must be wondering why he left Wolves.I hope Mr Levy was watching what you get for buying quality because Allan. Doucoure andRodrigues looked to be playing a different game to us.I personally don’t expect Mourino to last the season.We will probably struggle on Wednesday if we play like that.How much longer are the faithful prepared to put up with this dross .If we were winning it would probably be bearable but if we have to lose act least play and try to entertain,..Would United fans put up with this tripe .I don’t think so.Please Mr Edwards say you have had enough and sell up
     
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  7. Spurporter Active Member

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    It was a painful defeat. Both PEH and Doherty were mediocre. Moura was terrible. Kane looked lost. Son in first period and Steve in the second were noticeable. The rest - not so much. Mou starting 11 were wrong. We are back into last season.
     
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  8. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    It's an awful team and an even worse squad.
    Not a single upgrade in players since 16/17.
    Complete and utter negligence
     
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  9. Guesty Guest

    I think Ancelotti got players that he wanted.....sadly JM never will.
    JM is used to big named performance players...... who has he got here...... Son and a crocked Kane.
    Winks......ffs......he's not even Championship standard

    ......and I agree..... Doherty will wonder why the feck he left Wolves.
     
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  10. Jesper Active Member

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    Well that sucked....
    Saw someone had calculated that the Spurs bench had cost 200 million pounds. Sounds like a big number but the big money signings are what they are.

    First half had moments when it looked like the players were pressing like a team again. Alli wasn't great in that and was subbed but in came Sissoko who seems more interested in what others are doing than doing his own assigned job. That lack of focus makes it impossible for him to do his assigned job.
    Everton with three new players in midfield played better togther than the players who had been playeing together for a long time at Spurs.

    The Everton goal showed why I don't like defending free kicks so high. The attacking players can attack the ball and put more pace on it while the defenders are running towards their own goal and are afraid to score an own goal.
     
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    Is there any body on here who still trusts Mourinos tactical nous or team selection.If so come on here and convince me.Tell me what Winks does and tell me how can Moura learn to control the ball and can any body teach Sissoko how to be a footballer with brains.On the Amazon tv program it is suggested that Sissoko is the main man in the dressing room. So how sad is that
     
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  12. Guesty Guest

    too many players below standard.
    Oh wait.... I've said the same as last season.....
    still the same 10 first to go for me.....
    Dier, Sanchez, Davies, Foyth, Aurier, Winks, Sissoko, Gedson, Moura & Lamela.......

    We will go nowhere with these guys in the team
     
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    Bazza47 Well-Known Member

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    The problem is Guesty that we’ve royally painted ourselves into a corner. No decent new players is not JM’s fault, and with little prospect of there being funds to build, we are up s**t creek without a paddle. I agree with the list, but we can’t get shot of them all, distressed seller and all that. It’s going to be a long winter........
     
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    Today was not a surprise was it. It’s been coming and with Everton building and us not, I had my usual zero expectation. What I didn’t expect was such a piss poor performance from pretty much the entire team.

    The worry is that H looks generally unhappy...and sluggish. One more season at best me thinks.

    Back four so poor and gifted their winner by setting such a high line. Dier - never a CB in a million years.

    But no funds make for a season of pain. What’s the target - 40 points to stay up.

    As ever COYS!
     
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    I said it most of last season and I think the same will ring true this season. I personally do t believe JM is the person that can do what we need and I’ll be surprised if he makes it through the season. I actually like what I’ve seen of him as a personable bloke but despite doing ok last season, defending so deep and scraping points can only last so long.

    It’s strange the sheer contempt that some hold for Poch, talking about his lack of character, lack of spine to levy for transfers etc then using lack of signings as an excuse for JM. The clear issue is the clubs lack of desire to spend and there is no manager in world football that will be able to stand up to their boss to force signings. That is not JM’s fault, he is after all, an employee, just like Poch always was.

    Based on today’s performance it’s painfully obvious what needs to happen:

    1) JM at some stage will be sacked and paid handsomely for his efforts leaving us in a world of pain
    2) We will not improve a great deal because no one in their right mind would want the job given the structure
    3) Until we are sold, which will be long after Covid, we will be fighting for a top 10 finish
    4) Alli, Moura, Ndombele, Aurier, Sanchez all need to be sold along with the others who we all know about that won’t achieve much sale value
    5) Sissoko will still be forced to cover 4 or 5 positions across the pitch until the players in those positions are replaced. Sissoko is the first name on the team sheet for me until such time the rest of the squad is improved then his poor touch/shooting can be criticised and he should be benched

     
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    I will let you know this Thursday, Preed. I need to see whom JM will start in Plovdiv to determine whether today lineup was a rotation attempt that went poorly or something worse.
     
  17. Spurporter Active Member

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    How do you know? Last window was quite generous. Wait for the end of this one. Chelsea-like rebuild is not what JM was hired for. Levy will spend he is far from done.
     
  18. Big fran Guest

    The reason winks starts is because we have nobody else. Lo Celso injured. Sissoko can run but cannot play. Ndombele can play but cannot run. Where are the alternatives? There are so many areas in this side need addressing and the mediocre budget just cannot cover it!
     
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  19. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    We get the usual ramblings about JM not being the right manager for the job.
    So I'm gonna ask who it is that comes in instead and turns this utter car crash of a squad around?
    People will say things like LoCelso and Lamela were missing as if that would've changed the out come.
    I challenge anyone to write down their best 11 from this squad and itl have at least 4 players in it with question marks surrounding ability/consistency/past best/error prone/performance.
    And beyond those 1st 11s there is even worse on the bench.
    Pochettino & Levy destroyed what was built between them and anyone now is on a hiding to nothing.

    Too many wet fans gleefully clapping negligence and supporting failure, letting these parasites and bang average players with stinking attitudes get away with it.

    JM needs to be and should be backed to rip this squad up and start again.
    Too many comfy and disinterested players stealing a living at Spurs.
     
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    Spurporter you don’t disappoint .Do you really think Mourino was rotating for first match of season.The players need all the games they can get as they looked totally unfit.At least he has criticised the players for lack of effort but does not see his his tactics being totally wrong.The excuse that the free kick was taken from the wrong place is ridiculous as a decent centre half would have cleared the danger instead we had Dier not being able to get off the ground.If we lose on Thursday then Mourino must go although he won’t because it will cost Levy money,.You would think Levy would read the criticism and it would worry him but he admits in the Amazon documentary that he knows he is critisisedbut his critics don’t understNd how difficult it is to buy new players.When you are as tight as him it probably doesFelon I agree with your comments about the squad and what Levy andPochetino did to it but I can’t agree that we should give the job of rebuilding to Mourino as he had shown he is totally out of touch with modern day tactics.I don’t know who we need now which is sad but after Sunday I think he has lost the players
     
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    Bazza47 Well-Known Member

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    I understand the problem Felon, but can’t at the moment see a solution. As a distressed seller, were we to try to offload all the players that we need to, we would generate peanuts from any fire sale. With revenue dropping like a stone with no CL, no fans, no NFL, no concerts yet, debt to fund, Covid still dominating, it’s five years at least to get through this dark tunnel.....mmmm....might not be here to see that through!
     
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