Matchday discussion

Discussion in 'Tottenham forum' started by bigfran, September 14, 2018.

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  1. Big fran Guest

    No depth? 3 right wing backs, 2 left wing backs(plus reguilon loaned out the only natural wing back we have). 6 centre halves(plus rodon on loan). 4 centre mids(winks on loan) with Alfie Devine looking capable in a 2 man mid system. Then 6 attackers. Think you mean quality /mentality issue..
     
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  2. voiceofreason Active Member

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    I think you are just agreeing with his point?
    Obviously when he said depth he meant quality otherwise it would just be saying we don’t have a full squad of players or we have all the same position!

    I do agree we need to improve the quality but we were definitely a bit unlucky to have 3 or of our main 4 strikers injured at the same time. Particularly as they are some of the actual top class players in the squad
    Why won’t Royal get injured!!
     
  3. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Half time rant again.Outplayed by forest reserves.Now 8 games in a row with no goal first half.What is Conte really doing because he is now equaling Mourino for total ineptitude and team selection.Still don’t worry he will probably bring on another defender ,Any body else as p****d off as I am with watching this dross
     
  4. Guesty Guest

    simple...... don't watch.

    hide behind something like the rest of us.
    then shout at the kids and kick the dog
     
  5. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    This is the final straw I don’t care that we are 4th in the league at the moment it won’t last.Conte has to go as I cannot believe any true spurs fan can be satisfied with what is being served up.It was fairly obvious that he surrendered when he took off our only goal scorer when 2 downThen he is forced by circumstance to put Spence on who looked far the best wing back in his short time on the pitch.He will be back on the bench against Leeds because he commuted a cardinal sin and showed attacking intent.If he thought Kane needed a rest he should have done it at the start and played Kulu and Ricky.I am afraid that Skipp has gone backwards since his injuryPlease Levy get rid although I don’t have a clue who could make this rabble into a football team.Conte is making Southgate look the most exciting manager and that is a feat.The managers of the World Cup teams must hope they get a chance to play England with Dier in the team
     
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  6. The Conte Guest

    No depth is the term I believe

    All sides have 25 squad members and can also call on a limitless number of youngsters who don’t need to be registered

    So numbers are never actually the problem… depth is always about quality

    But I do understand your point
     
  7. The Conte Guest

    Who watches the Carabao?

    It’s a B grade cup for bottom feeders and bench warmers highly rated by Jose Mourinho and just about no one else

    What does it get you these days? A playoff spot for the Europa Conference? It should be scrapped

    This side is cooked… we need to get the result against Leeds and then have a long break
     
  8. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    It might be a b side cup but we played most of our first team while Forest made 9 changes.Looking at the teams that have gone out this was a chance of silverware but I suppose you don’t want a b cup
     
  9. The Conte Guest

    No sorry I’m not clamouring for a B grade cup… and I doubt any of the players truly are either. Of course they never play to lose but there is simply not the same motivation to perform

    We should have played a lot of youngsters here… including Spence… so you can definitely criticise Conte for that

    But had he done so I imagine he would have been equally criticised for not trying

    It is a pointless competition… a playoff spot in the Conference? Do you really want Kane snapping his ankle playing in one of these games?

    They scrapped it in France… they should scrap it in England
     
  10. Mr Levy Guest

    The performance was poor but the reality is that this is the cup that genuinely no one actually cares if they win. If anything, dropping out of this now does us a favour for when the season starts again.

    The main surprise/disappointment is that we didn’t start with all of the players who haven’t had much game time and we didn’t play some of our younger players to get some experience.

    I’m not sure what Conte is thinking when picking a relatively strong starting team when he has called out how tired the players are. Also starting with a formation that has no real intent on winning is a little strange.

     
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    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Can’t believe that the rose coloured are still finding excuses for **** performances.Nobody want to win this cup ? Should someone tell City.Conte says players tired and then plays them again and again.Picks the best wing back at last but will still bring in Emmerson against Leeds.I for one don’t trust him to spend well in January if his last window is anything to go by.Tuchel has not got a club
     
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  12. Mr Levy Guest

    Look at the sides teams put out each year. Liverpool had not one starter playing and started the game with numbers 81 & 94 upfront. Arsenal started one true starter (Saliba) against Brighton. City started with maybe 6 first choice players, they are just blessed with a full squad of players that would start in most teams 11.

    To answer your question, nobody goes out of their way to win this cup.

    it doesn’t excuse the performance, team selection or formation for this particular game but it’s a fact that going out of this cup at this stage may not necessarily be the worst thing.
     
  13. Felon82 Well-Known Member

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    Denouncing cups as meaningless is just a coping technique for years of blind faith and denial.

    Worst trophy return in 70 years under ENIC, and their cult will make any excuse for them.

    As for the 'performance' is anyone suprised?
    Massively overated players, stockpiled with utter garbage and loser mentality.
     
  14. Guesty Guest

    we need our scouts to find a real couple of leaders to kick some passion and will to win into most of them

    I suggest the cheque book owners take a look at the Hanson brothers in the film Slap Shot :D
     
  15. The Conte Guest

    Sorry to tell you but times have changed. No one gives a fark about the League Cup and that’s been the case for many years… pretty much since UEFA opened up European football to numerous teams I would say

    If City win it regularly it’s because their 2nd XI is better than just about everyone’s first XI… anyone else not named Jose honestly doesn’t care

    Did you used to pull your hair out when Redknapp sent out the 2nd team for these games? And he was as old school as it gets

    It should just be scrapped
     
  16. The Conte Guest

    The League Cup is a thoroughly pointless exercise when there are bigger objectives to meet. The FA Cup still has some mystique but it’s not the same anymore either

    Champs League is where it’s at these days for any club with any ambition in any country in Europe

    And it’s not about the money… though that is not insignificant

    It’s about prestige… it’s about profile… it’s about attracting the best players and managers to the club

    That’s the only path to consistent success. Just wishing to jag a League Cup every 10 years lacks any ambition
     
  17. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    Why are the rose coloured still trying to justify an awful performance because the cup is not important enough.If this is the case why did Conte go strong compared to other teams.Nothing can excuse that performance and it’s becoming a habit.I abhor this idea that you throw a game .I do agree that the league cup should be scrapped but until it is try to win it.We can’t turn our nose up at a cup with our record this century
     
  18. The Conte Guest

    Great! Now we agree that the Carabao is meaningless we can talk about the actual game if you like

    I didn’t watch it… for all the above reasons… but by all reports it wasn’t good

    The team is clearly cooked… and was coming off two massive games in the past 7 days… so motivation will naturally be low

    Conte should have thrown this game but instead he’s tried to squeeze out one more result since we’ll be going on a month long break in a handful of days

    A big mistake if we fail to get the result against Leeds

    If you think that brief appraisal is rose coloured then you might want to check what colour the tints are on your glasses
     
  19. voiceofreason Active Member

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    I said before the game we should play a second string, I was disappointed Kane was playing but he may have more say in that than Conte.
    Glad we are out, as said above, it’s won by City because they have a deeper squad

    Even if we did win it to say we won a cup doesn’t mean much when other teams don’t take it seriously

    I’m not sure about Preed saying Conte can’t be trusted in transfer window. Kulu,Bentacour, ,Peresic all top players. Bissouma should come good and Lenglet is a strong player. Can’t remember if Romero was under Conte, if so that’s pretty good going. Oh and Richarlison! All the above are not players you have criticised so not sure your statement is valid
     
  20. Preed

    Preed Well-Known Member

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    I am afraid that trying to justify the last months performances is becoming a joke.Throw a game Why???Is that legal .What do players earning more in a week than most of us in a year need to motivate themselves.I don’t have a tint just common sense and years of watching football and this team are a disgrace to the shirt .I don’t really know if this is all down to the lack of ability of the players or does Contes negativity not help.Either way something must change
     

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