Leipzig At The Lane

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  1. Preed

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    Just seen Mourino on sky saying there will be no defenders bought in the transfer window.If this is true we have no chance of top four.Is this ego or is it Levy again either way I am disolutioned already with this attitude.It was not long ago that Mourino fell out with the man united board for suggesting they should buy a centre half which they didn’t do until after he had been sacked.Does he believe he can turn sows ears into princes or is he afraid of rocking the boat and losing Levy’s backing.I fervently believed that he would assess our squad and tell Levy what was needed.Having listened to Pochetino for two years with the same rubbish this is worrying.Maybe he is going to buy a defensive midfielder to cover the holes in defense let’s hope so or we are going nowhere fast.I welcomed Mourino wjith open arms but I thought he would be strong enough to stand up to Levy only time will tell.


     
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    Same old same old 1 down no fight defending poor Moura and Ali giving ball away for fun.Has pochetino come back??.!.the one thing I thought Mourino would bring was organisation and fight.So far neither maybe he has become out of date.The last 3 performances have proved that Son is by far our best player.Hate to say it but Lamela for Moura in second half please
     
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    Absolute Bilge once more. No more to say. Over and out.
     
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  4. Genevaspurs Guest

    Ghostly Dele (again...)
     
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  5. Cheshuntboy Guest

    The reality of just how much Levy and Pochettino allowed the team to stagnate while the stadium totally dominated every aspect of the club is becoming clearer with every poor performance and result, and blaming Mourinho is plain ridiculous. We've got two dodgy keepers, a geriatric defence, a midfield full of players barely able to stay fit for half a match, let alone a full season, and a forward line led by a player who's never recovered from his injury against Bournemouth nearly two years ago - is it any wonder we're a mess? I honestly feel sorry for Mourinho, who probably didn't realise quite how bad things were when he took the job (though £15 million probably softens the blow). Top four? I don't think so!
     
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    Surely any remaining pochetino lovers can see the mess that he and levy had created by lack of investment.I wanted Mourino in because I thought he would at least stabilise the situation but unfortunately I don’t think he understood the mess he was taking over.I am worried that he seems to be taking every thing calmly when he should be kicking backsides.We seem to have bought two duds in the last window Ndombele has talent but doesn’t seem up for a fight and that goes for Moura who couldn’t knock the skin off a rice pudding.Add that to the ballet dancer in Ali and is it any wonder we are outfought by lower teams who have passion.Alderweireld signs new contract when his form is dire and he would struggle to find another club and Mourino says we don’t need to buy defenders in the window,.If this reads as a depressing look at our current plight then it should do as I am more depressed by the current shambles than at any time since I started supporting spurs a long time ago .We had bad times but we never seemed to be able to attract the top players which with our new stadium we should now do.Today was the worst performance I have seen for the last ten years and had left me embarrassed which has never happened before
     
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    As poor as today was (like Shite Squared) these sort of performances have been running through our results since this time last year.

    What a truly painful watch, alongside Norwich, the Brighton first half, all of Chelski, Bayern......a defence that can’t defend with a collection of midfield players that includes Mr. Sicknote 2019-20, Dele, Moura, Lo Celso, Eriksen - all easily pushed off the ball plus an equally lightweight Sessignon.

    Truly diabolical watch and worrying times. Ok so we write off the season, settle for mid table and no Europe next season. That takes around 80-100m euros out of the revenue, easily our budget for new players.....

    How about we sell Dele, buy two full backs and a left sided CB....got to start somewhere.

    Can’t wait for Boro away without HK.....
     
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    Any body noticed Middlesbrough on a 3 game winning run could it be 4 come Sunday??? Surely not as that would be the final nail for this dispirited bunch and questions will be asked about whether Mourinohas ceased tobethe special one.
     
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    Mourinho hasn't been a Special One for quite a while now - all Managers have a shelf life, a very select few better than a host of others, but the time comes to them all when they don't do it anymore. He may not be totally finished but he's far from the force he was. He, at the very least, needs a good deal of time and quite a stack of money to put us in anything near a remotely challenging position once more and I just can't see this ending well. Maybe I'm being overly dark about it but I see us upper mid-table, certainly this year and possibly for a while to come. I see no improvement overall, with (briefly listing what immediately springs to mind) Dele's brother back in the side, Eriksen still totally disinterested, 'Arry not firing, Toby seemingly deteriorating alarmingly and our relatively new boys so far showing nothing at all to suggest they are any better than what we had. It isn't Mourinho's fault, the problem goes far deeper than Poch's rapid fall from grace and he must surely know now he has a Hell of a job on his hands.
     
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    Sad but true GMc ...
     
  11. THFC Guest

    I’ve said it a few times before on here and I have to say it again..We need a clear out of our defenders who quite frankly can’t really defend. From the back line I would only want to keep Toby, the rest need to be replaced. Pace and the ability to actually defend is key so when they are buying, that is what they should be looking for - shockingly given the fact their job involves a football you would expect any new recruits to be able to pass more than 5 yards as well.
    Aurier, Sanchez, KWP, Rose, Foyth should be sold and keep Davies as squad player only. I think Jan has already decided he is off based on what I have seen this season.
    We desperately need to sign a decent keeper and defensive midfielder as Dier is another who should be sold.
    Eriksen just needs to go, I don’t know how he possibly gets any game time at all and is a complete waste of space.
    Ndomble should not be played for the rest of the season and should just work 100% on fitness so he can last for 90 mins without fear of something breaking...quality player for 10 minutes then he just looked knackered.
    Sessignon should be loaned out to a premier league team to develop as looks promising but just doesn’t deliver anything at all yet.
    Lo Celso should be returned for a refund - why we signed him and not someone bigger and more athletic is beyond me.
    Moura should never start a game as he is not the same player as when he comes on however he should come on for at least 30 mins at the end of each game.
    Alli should 100% be sold while he has some value...he is so lazy and arrogant with the little flicks and tricks every week which always give the ball away. A goal every 4 weeks just doesn’t make up for the rest of the time where he just doesn’t look like he gives a **** and certainly doesn’t have any impact on games at all.
    Troy Parrot must be given some games now...because as soon as Kane is injured, like he is every single season, we have no one at all to replace him other than Son.

    I know I have said replace a lot of players and previously, thanks to bad buys that hasn’t worked but I don’t think we have a choice. All replacements should be established premier league players with the odd exception in midfield maybe.....we should not buy any defenders that have not played in the Premier League no matter how good they look overseas because when they arrive they are generally terrible.

    On a positive note, yet again Sissoko played like he wanted to win and has more desire than 50% of the rest combined. I can’t believe I’m saying this because I really thought he would be terrible but he is consistently our best player (if only he could shoot/cross he would be the best player in the league).

    I’m not sure if JM is the right man or not for the job but given what we know about the squad quality I’m not sure there is a right man until major changes to the squad occur. I think he is doing a decent job in difficult circumstances but it’s also confusing with some of his decisions around tactics and squad selections.
     
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    That could mean they are due for a loss.
     
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    I don't disagree, yet blaming previous regime was supposed to be reserved for the season end when club gets empty-handed. Isn't it a bit premature?
    As funny as it maybe, I believe Mou can make things better. He can improve the back end without new defenders. We don't have poor defenders, we have an adequate defenders doing poor job.
    Our defense did improve in terms of structure under Mou, but the defeat to Saints was due to inability of our offence to break their defense down. We also had Mike Dean, an enemy of Spurs and walking human waste, to referee the game. I was surprised he didn't give penalty for Verts handball, but was not at all surprised when he denied an obvious penalty to Dele. That could change the game earlier in our favor and who knows what the result could be.
    So, I wouldn't be so negative that early, although I am quite upset at the moment. COYS!!!
     
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    I agree JM can make things better than they were at the start of the season, I don’t agree about the defenders:
    Alderweireld - Decent but slow
    Sanchez - Quick but very unpredictable and prone to errors
    Vertonghen - Decent but very slow
    Aurier - No positional awareness for defending at all and can’t cross
    KWP - Not strong enough and makes poor decisions when being run at
    Foyth - Tries to be play way too much and often gets caught. Not big enough to play CB
    Rose - Has moments of quality going forward and occasional brilliant tackles coming back but often out of position and often gives the ball away
    Davies - Good back up for CB & LB but has no pace at all
    Dier - Unbelievably slow and always gives the ball away. I wouldn’t trust him at CB or CM

    I don’t think we can blame the ref and don’t agree that anyone would have given a penalty because Alli drops to the ground with a wind gust these days.

    Thanks to how poor all of the other teams around us are, we could still have a top 4 chance. That’s not positive though when week in and week out we are relying on other teams to try and get a top 4 place.

    QUOTE="Spurporter, post: 17899, member: 120"]I don't disagree, yet blaming previous regime was supposed to be reserved for the season end when club gets empty-handed. Isn't it a bit premature?
    As funny as it maybe, I believe Mou can make things better. He can improve the back end without new defenders. We don't have poor defenders, we have an adequate defenders doing poor job.
    Our defense did improve in terms of structure under Mou, but the defeat to Saints was due to inability of our offence to break their defense down. We also had Mike Dean, an enemy of Spurs and walking human waste, to referee the game. I was surprised he didn't give penalty for Verts handball, but was not at all surprised when he denied an obvious penalty to Dele. That could change the game earlier in our favor and who knows what the result could be.
    So, I wouldn't be so negative that early, although I am quite upset at the moment. COYS!!![/QUOTE]
     
  15. Bazza47

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    Thoughts......JM impressions ...

    So ....... we know something of Mourinho - Self opinionated, always right, smart, likes to have the last word, cuts people down with his sharp tongue, doesn’t keep things to himself.

    So ....... take the “are you Dele or his brother”, a typical JM smart arsed comment. What happens. Press laugh, Dele gets his finger our, scores goals, everybody wins.

    So......Dele’s young, might not be think skinned, starts playing bad again, JM criticises him.....lose at Saints, storms off down the tunnel, no travelling fan acknowledgement....result, a problem brewing.

    So.....elsewhere individual player performances are shite...team performance also - Norwich and Saints were amongst the worst team performances I’ve seen for a while.

    So.....the players have been used to Poch’s warm, touchy/feely, arm around shoulder style of management. That’s not JM, at all.

    There is a very public view about who might be going. Whilst it may be speculation, it certainly does not help one bit - up to half of the first team squad....loadsa players. Players talk, perhaps he’s rubbing them up the wrong way, he’s not exactly subtle is he......time will tell......
     

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